(01-27-2013, 04:46 PM)Hasteric Wrote: You still haven't explained why your Nephilim crew can't be flown to Betlehem using a passenger shuttle, rather than a massive, fuel-guzzling, mythical warship meant to float through the edge worlds.
The time it takes me to repsond here is too much, but at the same token, why your cap ships can't fly to texas for repairs? don't dock at FP.
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(01-27-2013, 04:48 PM)Tel-Aviv Wrote: The time it takes me to repsond here is too much, but at the same token, why your cap ships can't fly to texas for repairs? don't dock at FP.
You still haven't answered the question. And I'm not sure what you're talking about. I don't really participate in Rheinland-Liberty or Liberty-Rheinland raids. I very much doubt that cap ships dock on the FP to get inRP repairs. They'd likely head to Norfolk for those.
It does happend, more often than a nephilim in New-York, but i guess you didnt know about that now did you.
Im fine with that silly treaty, and I see a lot of zoner ships ( cruiser+ ) posting permissions in the communication's channel but no one approves them, so that "permission" bullshit is out of the question.
As for your question, If you happend to fly a nephilim, you will fly it there, more-so; The Torpedoes like to attack zoner ships in penn but the navy doesn't do anything, i was raided myself in the heart of erie by several bombers.. nope.. no help there.
So just by this example alone, a zoner warship should be stationed there, cuz "liberty protection" is only on paper as far as the evidence show.
(01-27-2013, 04:33 PM)Tel-Aviv Wrote: ...
If something should suit RP, it will be to free Penn much like mollys at dublin.
ITT: Tel-Aviv demonstrates that he has no idea what it means to be a Zoner.
It does make sense when you've had the Zoner Guard, but now theres none.
Ah.. Hell fire.. I remember the LH base in Vesp, where is it now?
The "Zoner Guard" ID was a game-mechanic tool. There is no such thing as a "Zoner Guard" faction in the scope of mod lore. All IDs exist outside of the roleplay environment.
Zoners are not a united faction. They are not one people. They have no government. They have no military. They have no warships. There is no membership in the Zoners as there is in other factions; to be a Zoner is to adopt a way of life.
If you rebel against the Republic of Liberty, you are but one ship, and you will be quashed. To cite Freeport 2 in Bering as an invasion of Zoner space is a gross misunderstanding of Sirian geopolitical affairs.
Pennsylvania is administrated by the Republic of Liberty. Liberty's word is law. To risk Liberty's wrath in defiance of the law is to risk all those who call themselves Zoners, and live in or around Liberty.
For reference, here is the Treaty of Bethlehem: http://discoverygc.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=27945
This quite clearly demonstrates that Zoner-controlled space is actually a rather compact 5k sphere around Zoner npc bases - not the entire system.
(01-27-2013, 04:57 PM)Tel-Aviv Wrote: It does happend, more often than a nephilim in New-York, but i guess you didnt know about that now did you.
Im fine with that silly treaty, and I see a lot of zoner ships ( cruiser+ ) posting permissions in the communication's channel but no one approves them, so that "permission" ***** is out of the question.
As for your question, If you happend to fly a nephilim, you will fly it there, more-so; The Torpedoes like to attack zoner ships in penn but the navy doesn't do anything, i was raided myself in the heart of erie by several bombers.. nope.. no help there.
So just by this example alone, a zoner warship should be stationed there, cuz "liberty protection" is only on paper as far as the evidence show.
Permission is not granted for Zoner capitals to access Liberty because they have not earned it, and it poses a security liability. The option exists for permission to be granted because it can be granted, and has been in the past.
As far as being hunted by a pack of players? Well that's just bad luck; there aren't enough players (or player slots) on the server to fill the roles of ships which exist there.
(01-27-2013, 04:33 PM)Tel-Aviv Wrote: ...
If something should suit RP, it will be to free Penn much like mollys at dublin.
ITT: Tel-Aviv demonstrates that he has no idea what it means to be a Zoner.
It does make sense when you've had the Zoner Guard, but now theres none.
Ah.. Hell fire.. I remember the LH base in Vesp, where is it now?
The "Zoner Guard" ID was a game-mechanic tool. There is no such thing as a "Zoner Guard" faction in the scope of mod lore. All IDs exist outside of the roleplay environment.
Zoners are not a united faction. They are not one people. They have no government. They have no military. They have no warships. There is no membership in the Zoners as there is in other factions; to be a Zoner is to adopt a way of life.
If you rebel against the Republic of Liberty, you are but one ship, and you will be quashed. To cite Freeport 2 in Bering as an invasion of Zoner space is a gross misunderstanding of Sirian geopolitical affairs.
Pennsylvania is administrated by the Republic of Liberty. Liberty's word is law. To risk Liberty's wrath in defiance of the law is to risk all those who call themselves Zoners, and live in or around Liberty.
For reference, here is the Treaty of Bethlehem: http://discoverygc.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=27945
This quite clearly demonstrates that Zoner-controlled space is actually a rather compact 5k sphere around Zoner npc bases - not the entire system.
(01-27-2013, 04:57 PM)Tel-Aviv Wrote: It does happend, more often than a nephilim in New-York, but i guess you didnt know about that now did you.
Im fine with that silly treaty, and I see a lot of zoner ships ( cruiser+ ) posting permissions in the communication's channel but no one approves them, so that "permission" ***** is out of the question.
As for your question, If you happend to fly a nephilim, you will fly it there, more-so; The Torpedoes like to attack zoner ships in penn but the navy doesn't do anything, i was raided myself in the heart of erie by several bombers.. nope.. no help there.
So just by this example alone, a zoner warship should be stationed there, cuz "liberty protection" is only on paper as far as the evidence show.
Permission is not granted for Zoner capitals to access Liberty because they have not earned it, and it poses a security liability. The option exists for permission to be granted because it can be granted, and has been in the past.
As far as being hunted by a pack of players? Well that's just bad luck; there aren't enough players (or player slots) on the server to fill the roles of ships which exist there.
I agree, and in some degree - the pirates are larger in numbers , but I guess a zoner being raped is ok, vs a oc flying near mojave is not.
Not judging anyone, just saying ; and trust me, if someone could even respond to our request, i wouldn't even bother making this post, because as I have stated in a previous post, theres a clash inside the ln when it comes to the ranks, no one is an officer, 20 minutes later everyone are.
(01-27-2013, 05:15 PM)Tel-Aviv Wrote: I agree, and in some degree - the pirates are larger in numbers , but I guess a zoner being raped is ok, vs a oc flying near mojave is not.
Not judging anyone, just saying ; and trust me, if someone could even respond to our request, i wouldn't even bother making this post, because as I have stated in a previous post, theres a clash inside the ln when it comes to the ranks, no one is an officer, 20 minutes later everyone are.
Whether you agree or disagree is immaterial: what I have stated are facts that will not change based solely on your opinion.
You should get accustomed to not receiving responses on the Comms Channel within 24 hours. The availability of the Government is not set to suit every other player on the server.
Well, I meant in-game ; anyways, its sad though that people rush in to show fingers; the whole point was to let them realize that others also have a voice.
Who are the 'others' you are speaking of and why are you showing such hatred towards all the players here trying to explain you the game and also our community.
Like other players I had played along with the Zoner Council, and the ZRT who was created to defend Delta of a nomad invasion.
But things have changed even Zoner factions were created but also abandoned.
Several Freeports are still roleplayed by particular players as Freeport administrations.
There are also several individual roleplay events including the great one at FP1 some weeks ago.
The system Pennsylvania itself is a custom made, GC only system with the purpose to be a beginner's system giving new players the chance to get familiar with this mod - well that's the initial idea.
It is part of Liberty and all the custom made infocards tells a unique story.
Are you even know all these facts?
You are even argue with developers here still stating 'us' or 'we' - who is that in particular?
I'm also a Zoner player and you do not speak for me and I'm pretty sure all the other Zoner players can speak for themselves - as they did.
I do not speak for every zoner, and nor do you ; so ur views dont impact on anything, the same way..mine doesn't.
But Zoners should be allowed to be in zoner installations, WITH OR WITHOUT CAP SHIPS,thats universal to every zoner, even if your stuck , if you don't want to go there, dont go there and don't post here.
And I see you have missed the point, so by all means, please walk.
Oh, and thats really the last time you call me a maniac, got it kid.
