(12-06-2013, 09:54 AM)Trogdor Wrote: Yes, because you are totally someone who is a good example for others and also a good judge of who we do and don't want in the community. -.-
Yes, I am.
For one thing, I am a part of the community. Whether or not I am a good addition to it, I am still a part of it.
And yes, I do hold all rights to individually judge people. Whether or not I am allowed to point my finger and voice that opinion or, worse, force it on other people is a completely different thing.
EDIT: Okay, that sounded a bit too high browed even for me.
What I mean by it, is that I am damn proud of the good things I have done and not that proud of the bad things I have done. Depends on the person, who I talk to. However, I can tell you this. Because of the duality of the actions I have taken part of during my 6ish years here, I am not even going to be modest here: I have the fullest experience of Disco as a game and community anyone could hope for. And I enjoyed every moment of it and is why I am still here to see where Disco will go.
If I could just put all those experiences on paper, give it to someone, they would be over Disco like flies.
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(12-06-2013, 09:54 AM)Trogdor Wrote: Yes, because you are totally someone who is a good example for others and also a good judge of who we do and don't want in the community. -.-
Yes, I am.
For one thing, I am a part of the community. Whether or not I am a good addition to it, I am still a part of it.
And yes, I do hold all rights to individually judge people. Whether or not I am allowed to point my finger and voice that opinion or, worse, force it on other people is a completely different thing.
Haven't you been banned/sanctioned, like, a lot, for being a nuisance? And yet, here you are, the poster child of your own weed-out argument, still here for some reason. And yet somehow you feel justified in saying other people are unworthy to be here. Pot calling the kettle black much?
Oh, okay, I see. You missed the point of my original reply.
Oh, and yes, I am a hypocrite. Whether or not it is a good thing is arguable, but at least I acknowledge it.
Anyway, what I meant is that if you are easily angered, easily depressed or otherwise unstable, perhaps it is a good idea you do not touch Disco. For your own sake and the sake of other people around you. You see people screaming abuse in their sanction threads. Those are the same people, who will rage at you for killing them ingame, or that you pirated them or that something else is not right.
Sanctions being harsh separates such people from the ''survivors'' and while the losses might have been great people and great RPers, there is no reason to expose them to the dramahause we call Disco, if they will end up butthurt in real life because of it.
Quote:Haven't you been banned/sanctioned, like, a lot, for being a nuisance?
Yes, yes I have. So have a lot of people. Do you expect me to drag around with my head under the jacket for something that has happened in the past? If you are saying that I should be viewed as something less because of my previous sanctions, what is it that you are trying to say about the original question of this thread?
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PSA: If you have been having stutter/FPS lag on Disco where it does not run as smoothly as other games, please look at the fix here: https://discoverygc.com/forums/showthrea...pid2306502
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(12-06-2013, 10:22 AM)sindroms Wrote: Oh, okay, I see. You missed the point of my original reply.
Oh, and yes, I am a hypocrite. Whether or not it is a good thing is arguable, but at least I acknowledge it.
Anyway, what I meant is that if you are easily angered, easily depressed or otherwise unstable, perhaps it is a good idea you do not touch Disco. For your own sake and the sake of other people around you. You see people screaming abuse in their sanction threads. Those are the same people, who will rage at you for killing them ingame, or that you pirated them or that something else is not right.
Sanctions being harsh separates such people from the ''survivors'' and while the losses might have been great people and great RPers, there is no reason to expose them to the dramahause we call Disco, if they will end up butthurt in real life because of it.
Didn't you -just- have a ship deleted because you were, as you say "butthurt", and using Fix.Libby to throw an ingame tantrum?
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(12-06-2013, 10:22 AM)sindroms Wrote: Yes, yes I have. So have a lot of people. Do you expect me to drag around with my head under the jacket for something that has happened in the past? If you are saying that I should be viewed as something less because of my previous sanctions, what is it that you are trying to say about the original question of this thread?
No but I would appreciate it if you recognized your aforementioned hypocrisy. The original point of this thread was 'is bastille a good idea', to which you seemed to argue 'no, we just just get rid of 'em so the only players we have left are the good ones.' To which I reply, if we did that, not only would you not be here, but the community would have even less new people in it to replace the people we lose to attrition.
That's (now really) all I'm gonna say. /abandonthread
It was just something I did, because I thought it would be amusing and it should be noted, that none of the people involved had any intention to sanction me. Heck, one of them even replied in the 15min thread in a joking attitude.
I am trying my best not to do ingame tantrums, I just stay clear of Disco for a week, if I get my jimmies rustled. I know I am already walking a fine line and doing something too stupid ingame would be dumb. I still enjoy playing here, after all.
EDIT: Hey, get back in here :|
You called me out on my actions, now acknowledge my response.
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PSA: If you have been having stutter/FPS lag on Disco where it does not run as smoothly as other games, please look at the fix here: https://discoverygc.com/forums/showthrea...pid2306502
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(12-06-2013, 09:46 AM)Thargoid Wrote: Take this fine specimen for example: LINK
Wishes another player DEATH, yes, DEATH, because they scam people in a computer game for virtual money.
There's a good reason for why there are laws against scamming in real life. Such laws or rules should obviously also apply to games if it isn't "part of the game" (if it is about "ooRP"-scams in Disco). The internet really brings out the worst in some people though...
Removing Bastille? Nope. I think the Bastille is a good system to lock up people you wish to bring to the forums due to their rule breakings. I guess the same could be done with a ban, but a ban always seems a bit harsh. It is a place for those who aren't hopeless cases.
The stuff is fine as is it.
The only thing that could be improved is the punishment for older players.
In my opinion everyone have the right to do mistakes as new player. Also everyone inclusive the older players should have the right for one small punishment for one sanction for lets say 6 months period, however if the said person is old player and break the rules for second time in the said period his stuff need to be deleted.
Also note that the recent rule changes might had created some confusion, for example I found out about the new house system rule only 2-3 days ago and broke the rules using the old rule scheme quite a few times.
(10-09-2013, 10:51 AM)Knjaz Wrote: Official faction players that are often accused of elitism, never deploy them and have those weird, immersion killing "fair fight/dueling" suicidal hobbies. (yes, i've seen enough of those lolduels, where house military with overwhelming force on the field willingly loses a pilot in a duel. ffs.)
(12-06-2013, 12:04 PM)Govedo13 Wrote: Also note that the recent rule changes might had created some confusion, for example I found out about the new house system rule only 2-3 days ago and broke the rules using the old rule scheme quite a few times.
Good point as rule revisions are not mentioned via ingame announcements. Forum usage is optional here and it would be common sense to know the rules before playing on the server, yet not common sense to check daily if there was rule revision.
The problem, in my opinion, is whether Bastille is an effective disciplinary tool, or if the folks who get sent there have probably never been properly disciplined in their lives, so when it actually happens they rage/quit/whatever.
Bastille/Bans/Sanctions are only good if they actually discourage bad behavior. I think Bastille is good in that it can bring a new player to direct focus on what they are doing wrong,.give them a chance to acknowledge it, and then learn from their mistakes.
Veteran players who intentionally break rules or are repeat offenders obviously haven't learned their lesson, and the punishments should be more severe.
I'd be against permaban unless in extreme cases (DPC-grade), but loss of money and equipment on a large scale,.if not outright deletion of a ship, should always be used.
And if people say "meh...who cares....I have more money", then....take away more money.