This is not how GCs act, it is actually a disgrace, why even do this kind of stuff?
As the former GC| leader i can tell that this is acceptable in some degree.
(06-08-2017, 08:37 PM)Shelco Wrote: Can you prove that you don't make every of your chars just to shoot?
Well, he don't have to prove it, first of all because he is a proven RPer. And even if it was so, I don't see anything bad in chars for shooting people. It's the same sort of gameplay as chars to trade or to pirate.
Can you please let Wesker take a stance on this? I am not saying he isn't allowed to shoot with his chars or even that they are only there, it is the way the RP is being performed ingame, the argument about being a proven RPer is nonsense, does this mean I have to RP nice one time and this is my ticket for being an absolute nutjiob in the future? Is this the way this works here? <--- extreme case btw. Trading does never ruin another person's RP or even slightly bothers, pirating is only the RP since you don't shoot but actual shooting rips your char out of the RP you might have been in and disallows you to continue it at the same spot, it is not all the same.
Space is dangerous. If you want to have calm concentrated RP, there is a lot of tools for that and no wesker or yber will break it up. But as long as you are in game, different things can happen, including the enemy looking for you.
If I could just fly outside of conn for one second without people complaining in some manner because they died and my RP wasn't "to their standards" all the time, it would be nice. Yes, I'm a veteran player, a faction leader. I don't treat people like shit intentionally, I don't troll and harass people, I don't target individuals at all, I'm not some person trying to appease you or everyone's expectations at every moment, and I'm not going to do super hardcore/accurate/spot on/excellent2urstandards/amazing/somethingidgetoffto/annaheinrichteir/galliaisgayjoinmycirclejerk RP every time I log ingame on every character, I hate to burst your bubble, but EVERYONE does this in some way shape or form. If you don't believe me take a look at the whole Kapuski fiasco, surely that isnt serious coalition RP, do people complain? No, but when I do something slightly out of line to you, you feel the need to complain to me like it's the end of the world EVERY SINGLETIME.
Now.
(06-08-2017, 08:37 PM)Shelco Wrote: Why do people of your pvp level feel the need of interrupting a fair fight with stupid RP but then would cry wolf if it would happen to you? Seriously, sometimes I feel like discovery means "RP at will" for you. You can write good stuff on forums but your roleplay ingame is the last garbage, you can tell me whatever you want now but it honestly only looks like you see RP as the few shoot justifying lines you need to attack someone.
RP has many interpretations/forms, it comes down to the person doing it. Here's my interpretation: LOGICALLY when a TERRORIST sees a bunch of CIVILIANS in a HIGH POPULATED area, fighting amongst themselves and distracted, what would the person do? That's right, say nothing and bomb/shoot up the place, but here on this RP server we have to say poetic statements from the 1800's era to impress people like you and fufill what appears to be to people like you an "unspoken rule of discovery" because fuck me if RP can be interpreted or done in any way different than that. If you think my RP is garbage for RPing an insane lunatic terrorist woman about to shoot up a room full of civilians, well that's your opinion.
Quote: I get it, you are good and I get that you just love love love to press that into people's faces but does it really have to be during an ongoing fight? Why do you not value RP ingame as much as you do on forums? It's really tough to judge your qualities for me, on the one hand, I know you're a good RPer and could have a way better image than you get, on the other hand I can fully understand why you're being called a pvpwhore, that goes for yber as well, btw, just so you know, he sadly doesn't have a feedback thread. Seriously, I wish I could slap people's faces if they say you're a bad RPer but that doesn't work if you only perform this way.
I don't love to get in anyone's face except ibers cus hes a hacking fisheyeing noob, in fact, I didn't even shoot YOU we picked separate targets, like iber said you both could've called for help from the 7548937205903827458903275980723458907328907548903275908237409 people sitting near manhattan.
"PvPwhore" is another term that's interpreted differently, and basically slapped on people for being good at the game on different occasions. When I first started and was RPing with Core/BAF and getting along with everyone, while being the best cap player on the server, people weren't calling me a pvpwhore. Now that I'm not getting along with everyone, and I've become proficient in all classes except bombers because they suck I'm suddenly being called a pvpwhore. Mind you the amount of people I kill now a days is far less than the people I actively hunted down back in the day. But now that people dislike me, I'm being called a pvpwhore.
Coincidence?
I'll never know if my RP ingame is shit or not, because different people have different standards. Some people think Anna is shit and Marie excellent, some people think all my characters are shit ingame and on the forums. Some people don't, I'm not aiming to impress anyone, or live up to anyone's standards, I'm doing it for fun. Don't get yourself worked up over such a little thing, I've seen admins now pull stunts that by your definition are "LOL THIS IS POOR RP I CANNOT BEAR PLS PRESS REPORT COMPLAIN IN ALL THREAD I QUIT DISCOVERY!!!!!!!!!!!111111" and I've seen people that were called trolls do some RP that by your standards is amazing.
Quote: Your chars (Marie) are with no personality in my opinion,
Quote: Your chars (Marie) are with no personality in my opinion,
Quote: Your chars (Marie) are with no personality in my opinion,
Quote:(Marie)
Quote: no personality
Thanks, I knew I should've just infected them all anyways.
Quote: All except Anna, Anna is legitimately a good character, fleshed out, acts the way she is, she fits you, nobody would ever question you for quickly shooting someone as Anna Heinrich, because she in fact is like this. I can't say the same about all your other chars, ingame, they all look the same to me, if you would hide their names and let them all fly the same ships, I couldn't see one difference.
Anna recieves the most attention because there's so much unique about her, which in a way is cliche but not cliche at the same time. Most people try to RP their characters like gods, knowitalls, HARDCOREVETERANSUPERSTRONGCYBORGEX-INFECTEDVETERANPILOTANDWARSHIPCOMMANDER, characters that have become cliche but still get a LOT of attention. Anna is no goddess at everything, but because she's the first female Hessian leader/first leader figure I made/has a lot of elaborated traits that are well known, so she gets a lot of attention. All my characters are different in personalities and the way I fly them ingame ALL of them. Mary is no exception, she acted like the joker -a crazy lunatic about to shoot up an area full of innocent people-, I don't know how if there's a normal way to do that because its not an ordinary and normal thing.
Looking at my other characters, they aren't as "unique" compared to other people's characters, they have strengths (like most peoples), but they also have WEAKNESSES (which most people do not highlight at all). More importantly they aren't as active because I don't have the time to give them all an equal amount of attention. That's another reason why Anna has become so popular.
Quote:[08.06.2017 21:06:30] Mister.Hilarious: Mary, my friend!
[08.06.2017 21:06:34] Mister.Hilarious: My very best friend!
[08.06.2017 21:06:39] Death: MRG|RNS-Ressentiment suffered a self-inflicted catastrophic decompression.
[08.06.2017 21:06:39] Mister.Hilarious: How're you doing today?
[08.06.2017 21:07:23] Mister.Hilarious: I thought we could begin a perfomance!
[08.06.2017 21:07:31] Mister.Hilarious: Reopen the circus, put up a show!
[08.06.2017 21:07:39] {AC}=Carl.Benson: Who's Mary?
[08.06.2017 21:07:43] Mister.Hilarious: All of these people are DYING for it!
[08.06.2017 21:07:57] {AC}=Carl.Benson: Oh...
[08.06.2017 21:08:20] Mister.Hilarious: Now now now, it'd look like we have some competition here!
[08.06.2017 21:08:40] XA-Mary,Jackson: That's Hilarious! Compeition? Hahaha!
[08.06.2017 21:08:48] Mister.Hilarious: I know right?
[08.06.2017 21:09:07] Mister.Hilarious: Say, don't you think we crush competetion?
[08.06.2017 21:09:12] XA-Mary,Jackson: Yes!
[08.06.2017 21:09:16] Mister.Hilarious: So I say!
[08.06.2017 21:09:19] Mister.Hilarious: What do you think?
[08.06.2017 21:09:21] Mister.Hilarious: Should we?
[08.06.2017 21:09:24] XA-Mary,Jackson: Kill them all!
[08.06.2017 21:09:32] Leon.Isley: Oh crap.
[08.06.2017 21:09:38] Mister.Hilarious: How unfortunate!
[08.06.2017 21:09:40] Forlorn|-Elena.Voigt: What the actual f*ck.
[08.06.2017 21:09:44] Mister.Hilarious: And so begins the opening act
[08.06.2017 21:09:47] {AC}=Carl.Benson: Yeah! I think to go...
[08.06.2017 21:09:49] XA-Mary,Jackson: Act one!
[08.06.2017 21:09:53] XA-Mary,Jackson: Fire!
[08.06.2017 21:09:55] Mister.Hilarious: Let us bathe in their blo- Laughs!
[08.06.2017 21:10:10] Forlorn|-Elena.Voigt: Oh well. *She sighs*
[08.06.2017 21:10:17] XA-Mary,Jackson: Die!
[08.06.2017 21:10:36] Forlorn|-Kiara.Garlow: Elena, get over here...
Let's ignore Yber's hilarious and stupid roleplay. ^this is not how Xenos act, Xenos don't go out and shoot whatever they please, Xenos are ultranationalists that shoot foreigners, there was not a single reason for you to shoot half of the people that were there, Troy's char included.
Correction, Xenos are TERRORISTS that are also ultranationalists. They don't just kill foreigners and them alone, also, you wanted defining qualities, I'm RPing an insane lunatic but because I'm under the Xeno banner I have to be an ultranationalist that explains why I shoot only foreigners? By that logic, Anna Heinrich would have to explain why she'd kill civilians trespassing in Dresden or Omega-54, RHA aren't people that slaughter civilians at will all the time, they're revolutionaries, but no one would question me doing that ever right?
Quote: And please don't come with "My ID allows it to me" Oh that's great, Wild's can also shoot anything anywhere but don't do it because it is dumb. I just can't enjoy being even near your chars especially when I am not allied with them because I know it will always end in a pew, that is ridiculous, they all look like justifications to not flag you as a lolwut, I see no depth in them. Explain me why, why can you not act like you could. You aces wonder why the majority of the server stays away from you, it's not because you beat everyone, it's because you beat everyone in a way that leaves one eyerolling.
No the majority of the server stays away from me because the way I do RP ingame (even on serious characters like anna mind you) "ruins"/interferes with their style of RP/is something different they hate, and it's one they disapprove of. They disapprove that I've actually played RHA like villains, they disapprove that their pobs owned by enemies of the RHA in the omegas got destroyed by the RHA, they disapproved of GRN being the mean villains of Sirius enforcing authority in situations that they are needed in, they disapprove of me not taking them seriously when they hold no authority in a situation they are somehow a part of. No one wonders anything, I get along with most of the people I fly with and against, the rest dislike me for the reasons stated. If you think an encounter with me will always end in a fight, well that's just your opinion, because that isn't true for the rest of the server.
This is not how GCs act, it is actually a disgrace, why even do this kind of stuff? Can you prove that you don't make every of your chars just to shoot? And even if, okay, not so bad in the first place but why does it always have to be with such a horrible style of RP? Seriously, I don't even have a grudge against you or dislike you as human being but I simply dislike your ingame attitude, it's just not contributing but only disturbing, there are groups splitting apart that have just been RPing for hours because they see you and they know it's going to get shooty now. Do you even enjoy it? Do you enjoy people legitimately avoiding you because they know how the encounter goes? For someone that has been on the server for such a long time and pretty much knows everything, even lore, you could do a hell lot better.
Are we seriously going over this again. YES I have characters I've made to help factions on raids, like the Unioners, I recently made a unioner for helping the UN raid texas since they were getting pummeled constantly. Did anyone have an issue? No. Yea, my GC statement wasn't amazing, what would you have preferred? If I can get my time machine I can go back in time and change it to something to suit your needs.
Quote:And please, I can already see the chats of yours "Lol Wesker, Shelco just cried in your feedback, let me give you a TLDR: Pls dont shoot me anymore" Maybe take this one seriously and try to change something. I don't care how much sh*t of you and your buddies this will get me now, nobody else ever dares to speak out, yet, I am not barely the only one thinking this.
Ironically, the only person NOT hating on you and giving you shit 24/7 in all those chats right now is me. Ironically, the only person in those chats not always mentioning a wide variety of people they hate, is me. I hate a LOT less than the number of people that hate me. I can deal with it, regardless of if they gank me ingame or constantly piss at me in pm on skype. But when you come over into my feedback thread and take a dump on my image claiming you have the world backing because im not living up to your strict military daddy standards of RP like it's the end of the world, it's actually pretty infuriating. I've disliked a lot of peoples actions/RP/ingameplaystyles , do I dump on their images on the forums all the time because of it? No. I don't give people shit on a daily basis, I don't make all ships into perfect "up to your standards" characters, I don't play this game to live up to your standards at all. I play to have fun, and if you don't like the way I play, deal with it. It's not something you have to be involved in, you're free to dock or runaway, I'm not holding you to any expectations at all.
Excuse me if some of this sounds sloppy, but I tend to get tired after sitting in place typing in a hot room to satisfy other people's rage against me.
Quote:If I could just fly outside of conn for one second without people complaining in some manner because they died and my RP wasn't "to their standards" all the time, it would be nice. Yes, I'm a veteran player, a faction leader. I don't treat people like ***** intentionally, I don't troll and harass people, I don't target individuals at all, I'm not some person trying to appease you or everyone's expectations at every moment, and I'm not going to do super hardcore/accurate/spot on/excellent2urstandards/amazing/somethingidgetoffto/annaheinrichteir/galliaisgayjoinmycirclejerk RP every time I log ingame on every character, I hate to burst your bubble, but EVERYONE does this in some way shape or form. If you don't believe me take a look at the whole Kapuski fiasco, surely that isnt serious coalition RP, do people complain? No, but when I do something slightly out of line to you, you feel the need to complain to me like it's the end of the world EVERY SINGLE TIME.
Have you ever considered that people complaining about you has actual meaning? Maybe even considered that YOU made a mistake? It's not about MY standard, it is about YOURS, you said it yourself, you are a veteran, a faction leader, a whatever, so please act like one, the whole point of my feedback was not to put you on a bad level but to tell you "You can do it better". I don't complain about the Kaputski stuff because I haven't been involved in any, we'll see how and IF that changes, even a meme group can deliver enjoyable roleplay, if that is so, I won't complain.
Quote:RP has many interpretations/forms, it comes down to the person doing it. Here's my interpretation: LOGICALLY when a TERRORIST sees a bunch of CIVILIANS in a HIGH POPULATED area, fighting amongst themselves and distracted, what would the person do? That's right, say nothing and bomb/shoot up the place, but here on this RP server we have to say poetic statements from the 1800's era to impress people like you and fufill what appears to be to people like you an "unspoken rule of discovery" because ***** me if RP can be interpreted or done in any way different than that. If you think my RP is garbage for RPing an insane lunatic terrorist woman about to shoot up a room full of civilians, well that's your opinion.
Xenos are not Isis. Xenos wouldn't shoot libertonians without reason. A Xeno shoots foreign ships, given that my char has a foreign name, it's okay that you engaged me. I don't want you to impress me with anything, I want to have an encounter with you where I am glad I had it after it is finished instead of rolling my eyes and wishing I would have avoided it. That is what many people think by the way, nobody dares to speak it out, though. And this sentence about "RP is an interpretation bla bla" Of course it is, there are, however, guidelines on how you have to RP, we call them lore and ID.
Quote:I don't love to get in anyone's face except ibers cus hes a hacking fisheyeing noob, in fact, I didn't even shoot YOU we picked separate targets, like iber said you both could've called for help from the 7548937205903827458903275980723458907328907548903275908237409 people sitting near manhattan.
"PvPwhore" is another term that's interpreted differently, and basically slapped on people for being good at the game on different occasions. When I first started and was RPing with Core/BAF and getting along with everyone, while being the best cap player on the server, people weren't calling me a pvpwhore. Now that I'm not getting along with everyone, and I've become proficient in all classes except bombers because they suck I'm suddenly being called a pvpwhore. Mind you the amount of people I kill now a days is far less than the people I actively hunted down back in the day. But now that people dislike me, I'm being called a pvpwhore.
Coincidence?
I'll never know if my RP ingame is ***** or not, because different people have different standards. Some people think Anna is ***** and Marie excellent, some people think all my characters are ***** ingame and on the forums. Some people don't, I'm not aiming to impress anyone, or live up to anyone's standards, I'm doing it for fun. Don't get yourself worked up over such a little thing, I've seen admins now pull stunts that by your definition are "LOL THIS IS POOR RP I CANNOT BEAR PLS PRESS REPORT COMPLAIN IN ALL THREAD I QUIT DISCOVERY!!!!!!!!!!!111111" and I've seen people that were called trolls do some RP that by your standards is amazing.
Then maybe it was iber, don't know, it was someone with Heimdalls or something, doesn't matter, you both engaged. I couldn't have asked for help, I was shot and the present people wouldn't have helped my char due to his reputation. Nobody calls you a pvpwhore (while being serious) because you are a good player, they do it because you are often enough being seen skipping potential interesting RP to quickly quickly getting to the shooting part. I'd kick everyone if they'd call you a pvpwhore if you do good and up-to-your-level RP before every encounter and also let a possibility come where you and a maybe not allied char don't have to shoot each other. You know that your ingame RP is utter garbage the moment everyone starts to split up as soon as they see you or generally don't enjoy playing along with your RP. Now I am not saying that is the case but just an example. You might do this all for fun but in a community you should know that there are people on the other screen who'se fun you might ruin with your shooting savvyness. And I am not getting myself worked up over such a little thing, it is something I have seen for a longer time now and something many people have agreed with me on or said the same, actually funny that nobody of them ever speaks it out here. If trolls do amazing RP I am fine with it, as said way above, RP is defined by the situation, my character doesn't know if a char or group in front of me is serious or not, maybe even I don't, therefore, the RP can be evry enjoyable. If the people are being called trolls but do such amazing RP they are either no trolls or just half cut trolls.
Quote:Thanks, I knew I should've just infected them all anyways.
That was funny and I actually had to laugh because I love such answers. But from what I have seen (not what it actually is) Even Marie has no real personality as I also only have seen her guns blazing at me with little RP so far, I am so open for you to prove me otherwise man you know that ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Quote:Anna recieves the most attention because there's so much unique about her, which in a way is cliche but not cliche at the same time. Most people try to RP their characters like gods, knowitalls, HARDCOREVETERANSUPERSTRONGCYBORGEX-INFECTEDVETERANPILOTANDWARSHIPCOMMANDER, characters that have become cliche but still get a LOT of attention. Anna is no goddess at everything, but because she's the first female Hessian leader/first leader figure I made/has a lot of elaborated traits that are well known, so she gets a lot of attention. All my characters are different in personalities and the way I fly them ingame ALL of them. Mary is no exception, she acted like the joker -a crazy lunatic about to shoot up an area full of innocent people-, I don't know how if there's a normal way to do that because its not an ordinary and normal thing.
Looking at my other characters, they aren't as "unique" compared to other people's characters, they have strengths (like most peoples), but they also have WEAKNESSES (which most people do not highlight at all). More importantly they aren't as active because I don't have the time to give them all an equal amount of attention. That's another reason why Anna has become so popular.
Can't say much about it as it is a self-statement but I agree to the most part *shrug* Anna's all fine and I like her existing.
Quote:Correction, Xenos are TERRORISTS that are also ultranationalists. They don't just kill foreigners and them alone, also, you wanted defining qualities, I'm RPing an insane lunatic but because I'm under the Xeno banner I have to be an ultranationalist that explains why I shoot only foreigners? By that logic, Anna Heinrich would have to explain why she'd kill civilians trespassing in Dresden or Omega-54, RHA aren't people that slaughter civilians at will all the time, they're revolutionaries, but no one would question me doing that ever right?
Calling Xenos outright terrorists is a bit odd in the first place as you could call any unlawful faction that but let's accept it as it is. Even if your character was a lunatic, which you could easily claim now despite it possibly not being true but I will just believe you now, she still has to somehow blend in the Xeno image in my opinion, if not, then is that not another proof that you use her and the Xeno ID for the sole reason to shoot? I mean okay, if she is a lunatic, fine, so be it, that makes her killing everyone easier, however, she is not a Xeno by ethnic decisions then and just a terrorist under the Xeno banner. Of course, civilians trespassing hessian space, especially 54 is a reason to shoot, don't know who would question that, Dresden eeeeh but that doesn't even matter, your faction, your rules.
Quote:No the majority of the server stays away from me because the way I do RP ingame (even on serious characters like anna mind you) "ruins"/interferes with their style of RP/is something different they hate, and it's one they disapprove of. They disapprove that I've actually played RHA like villains, they disapprove that their pobs owned by enemies of the RHA in the omegas got destroyed by the RHA, they disapproved of GRN being the mean villains of Sirius enforcing authority in situations that they are needed in, they disapprove of me not taking them seriously when they hold no authority in a situation they are somehow a part of. No one wonders anything, I get along with most of the people I fly with and against, the rest dislike me for the reasons stated. If you think an encounter with me will always end in a fight, well that's just your opinion, because that isn't true for the rest of the server.
But what is this style? Passing on unfitting comments that are borderline meme or trolling? Then you just agreed to what I said. I don't know what your "style" of RP is. RHA raiding PoB's in Rheinland makes sense, actually, RM not defending them is the real deal xD But come on, if you'd raid one in Theta or something, that's just nah. Of course you get along with most people you fly with, they support you. And judging by the feedback THOSE get I am not surprised, everyone has their circle of friends, that one is yours and you fly with them. If I fly with my closest friends now, is that a reason to say that those who I fly with are cool with me? Obviously not as it is normal. As soon as those who do not know you or hang out with you like you, then you know that your attitude MUST be quite okay.
Quote:Are we seriously going over this again. YES I have characters I've made to help factions on raids, like the Unioners, I recently made a unioner for helping the UN raid texas since they were getting pummeled constantly. Did anyone have an issue? No. Yea, my GC statement wasn't amazing, what would you have preferred? If I can get my time machine I can go back in time and change it to something to suit your needs.
Yeah I made jokes about it but the meaning of it was actually quite serious, I am not telling you what I have preferred, it doesn't matter and you should have known and probably even knew. It is nice that you help UN with their events and I don't have something against event chars but at least make their RP reasonable and something others can actually cope with. Why am I even telling you this, you know that.
Quote:Ironically, the only person NOT hating on you and giving you ***** 24/7 in all those chats right now is me. Ironically, the only person in those chats not always mentioning a wide variety of people they hate, is me. I hate a LOT less than the number of people that hate me. I can deal with it, regardless of if they gank me ingame or constantly piss at me in pm on skype. But when you come over into my feedback thread and take a dump on my image claiming you have the world backing because im not living up to your strict military daddy standards of RP like it's the end of the world, it's actually pretty infuriating. I've disliked a lot of peoples actions/RP/ingameplaystyles , do I dump on their images on the forums all the time because of it? No. I don't give people ***** on a daily basis, I don't make all ships into perfect "up to your standards" characters, I don't play this game to live up to your standards at all. I play to have fun, and if you don't like the way I play, deal with it. It's not something you have to be involved in, you're free to dock or runaway, I'm not holding you to any expectations at all.
Excuse me if some of this sounds sloppy, but I tend to get tired after sitting in place typing in a hot room to satisfy other people's rage against me.
I always found it sad that apparently so many people hate me but have no courage to add me on Skype or Discord to discuss it, I want to be good with as many people as I can and try to improve myself, behind the curtain gossip doesn't help. The fact that you are the only one not sh*tting on me is one of the reasons I defend you rightfully from time to time, there is some hate that you have unrightfully and I always try to punch it out of people's head then. "Hate" itself is never really justified anyways, some people that heavily dislike you though have their reasons but they don't have the courage to stand up here so I don't care right now. I am not taking any dump on your image you did that by yourself, if you think me pointing out your (imo) mistakes is shitting on your image then you can deal with feedback worse than you say. If I encounter someone of your knowledge basis I am very very allowed to expect something suitable of your experience, if you cannot deliver, the mistake is not with me for expecting you to deliver good, not even super high quality, RP. Yes, we all play to have fun, that is the purpose of videogames, if your way of having fun heavily destroys others fun though, maybe that way isn't quite correct. And I mean that not with killing others (only).
Anyways, I am not sh*tting on you but legitimately saying what bothers me and others who don't feel like speaking out. Don't take this as a personal attack.
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I would like to use your feedback thread to complain that your PvP ability is underwhelming and needs to be improved, as you do not currently pose a formidable opponent in-game.
Like you see an enemy coming for you; "Please tell me your life story" isnt exctly what to expect. Youre supposed to shoot each other. "Target marked, enaging enemy" and then going in to shoot is more than sufficient RP and the shooting that follows still fits perfectly within RP because again in the end thats exactly what enemies are supposed to do.
Just another interaction.
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