(02-25-2017, 02:04 AM)Tanith Wrote: Nice idea - builds on JK's RP rather well. What sets you apart from a gameplay, not RP, perspective, from the Liberty Navy?
Liberty Navy is restrictive to its house, while Liberty has no active factions that focus solely on nomads I figured I'd try this avenue. As mentioned above this is not in game and is only a write up. I know I mentioned this is not a feed back page but if people have constructive feed back and not bein a jerk like the guy above me then I will respond.
"Restrictive to its house?"
I worry about the consequences of bringing battleships into other people's houses. Firstly, the admins won't agree to a ZOI which makes the navy ID irrelevant, secondly, I don't want Liberty dreadnaughts coming into Rheinland on a personal level, if, say, for example the first order thought the BDM was infected and a threat to Liberty through its influence in the Rheinland goverment. Trans-sirian capital ships are always a bad idea. Unioners can -just- about bring very limited capital options into Liberty's easternmost systems due to having less permissive ship usage than our primary rivals, being a faction highly opposed to Liberty influence since vanilla, and having a base in the Liberty border worlds. Consider ZOI in liberty, plus a few extra, very targeted systems. They don't have to be linked systems (for example, certain lines on the IMG ID).
In short: no trans-Sirian capitals. Such things should be saved for Nomad officials. I know you have no plans to abuse the ID, but what if somebody else leads the group in the future, or a member gets too adventurous? If an ID is too good, other inferior IDs look meagre by comparison. IDs should be ballanced.
Consider being conservative with your ZOI choices.
I think you misunderstand or maybe i should have been more clear i do apologize.
i think you are right, perhaps a more restrictive ZOI be set in place, i am thinking all of Liberty and its boarder systems (obviously) and perhaps just the Omicrons. I should remove the line about being out of the ZOI and still doing "things"
My vision for this faction was to be an offense Liberty force that took the fight to Nomad territories, i never really thought about going into other houses to actually attack people.
Edit 1: also yes, the LN is restrictive only to Liberty space and very few places in bretonia. they cant venture out or bad things may happen. unless im wrong?
Edit 2: I dont see anywhere in the proposed ID that i can go to Rheinland like your example stated and attack people?
(02-25-2017, 02:25 AM)HanCloudstone Wrote: I insincerely apologize for being "that guy", is there any reason to not to keep this faction's name to its respective franchise?
If there is, then I want a Millenium Falcon. Sorry not sorry.
+1 to this really, surely you could think of another name, instead of taking something from another franchise. How about something like "Task Force Omicron", "Directive ##"? I also had some questions about the ID but you seemed to have sorted most of that out with Reeves while I was at work, so apart from the name this seems like a pretty decent start up.
I would advise listening to all presented feedback, the name is an obvious import from Star Wars and is very much against Disco policy.
The proposed ID is also ridiculous; it is the LSF ID with added battleships, permission to destroy Nomads and Wild anywhere (read sector wide) and a bizarre allowance for the Omicron region with which Liberty has no direct access. This may be a continuation of your characters RP but as a faction this is quite frankly overpowered to an absurd degree.
My suggestion would be to refine where you want to play and use an ID from that region rather than attempting to span three regions with a Liberty based ID.
(02-25-2017, 03:56 PM)Croft Wrote: I would advise listening to all presented feedback, the name is an obvious import from Star Wars and is very much against Disco policy.
The proposed ID is also ridiculous; it is the LSF ID with added battleships, permission to destroy Nomads and Wild anywhere (read sector wide) and a bizarre allowance for the Omicron region with which Liberty has no direct access. This may be a continuation of your characters RP but as a faction this is quite frankly overpowered to an absurd degree.
My suggestion would be to refine where you want to play and use an ID from that region rather than attempting to span three regions with a Liberty based ID.
Obviously pictures that people use for their characters are imports from other franchises like Underworld and so on... yet that is not against disco policy, but 3 words put togeather is? I dont think so sir...
The ID is still a work in progress. I do agree Battleships are to much, i will remove that line and players who would like to have one can do an SRP like i have.
as for the ZOI, What would you recommend?
Edit: The line about attacking Nomads and Wild anywhere are very important, tell me why i should remove it?
(02-25-2017, 12:10 AM)The First Order Wrote: Very important, this is only a write up and is not in-game... i will respond to positive and positive feedback only.
Now, to be serious;
I don't see your logic here. You want to post here, on forums, in this gaming community but, you will ignore criticism. Why do you post then, to show of ability that you can write or RP like you did in that flood thread a while ago?
Your group, or SRP or any kind of RP will depend on the community and how well you handle criticism. If you want to play with yourself only then that's not how it works here. If you cannot handle simple criticism and you write what I quoted above then, your group will remain only un- official, because the requirements for official status are way different.
As for the actual write up, this isn't even half- written. I only see Johnatan Kalhmera mentioned and the Osiris, and that is all? I will not even ask about, from where the organisation will take resources and from what it will grow. From reading, I get the feeling that this was written just because you had need to create a group that you will especialy lead, and that you didn't even bother to put in some imagination.
But hey, you went straight ahead and proposed even your own ID, here in unofficial factions and groups section, even if you said this was just write up. It's funny because, members who did - a lot of writing- didn't even bothered with that, before they spent some decent time being unofficial and then, going for official faction request, where they would perhaps request their own ID, if it was actually, needed for them to do their thing in the game.
It would be wrong from me to tell you "Yo, you should not even post here if you didn't even finished it 95%" but you already posted. Do not get this as "negative feedback" but as a pointing out what you should do. I mean, you're not here from yesterday, you should know all this.
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(02-25-2017, 04:37 PM)The First Order Wrote:
(02-25-2017, 03:56 PM)Croft Wrote: I would advise listening to all presented feedback, the name is an obvious import from Star Wars and is very much against Disco policy.
The proposed ID is also ridiculous; it is the LSF ID with added battleships, permission to destroy Nomads and Wild anywhere (read sector wide) and a bizarre allowance for the Omicron region with which Liberty has no direct access. This may be a continuation of your characters RP but as a faction this is quite frankly overpowered to an absurd degree.
My suggestion would be to refine where you want to play and use an ID from that region rather than attempting to span three regions with a Liberty based ID.
Obviously pictures that people use for their characters are imports from other franchises like Underworld and so on... yet that is not against disco policy, but 3 words put togeather is? I dont think so sir...
The ID is still a work in progress. I do agree Battleships are to much, i will remove that line and players who would like to have one can do an SRP like i have.
as for the ZOI, What would you recommend?
Edit: The line about attacking Nomads and Wild anywhere are very important, tell me why i should remove it?
Char pics are one thing - as long as the same names/characteristics aren't used, then it's fine.
But, I really think you should change the name. Make it something new, fresh. Base it around a theme maybe? (Like how I based Aux out of greek & mythology, instead of mishmashing words)
(02-25-2017, 03:56 PM)Croft Wrote: I would advise listening to all presented feedback, the name is an obvious import from Star Wars and is very much against Disco policy.
The proposed ID is also ridiculous; it is the LSF ID with added battleships, permission to destroy Nomads and Wild anywhere (read sector wide) and a bizarre allowance for the Omicron region with which Liberty has no direct access. This may be a continuation of your characters RP but as a faction this is quite frankly overpowered to an absurd degree.
My suggestion would be to refine where you want to play and use an ID from that region rather than attempting to span three regions with a Liberty based ID.
Obviously pictures that people use for their characters are imports from other franchises like Underworld and so on... yet that is not against disco policy, but 3 words put togeather is? I dont think so sir...
The ID is still a work in progress. I do agree Battleships are to much, i will remove that line and players who would like to have one can do an SRP like i have.
as for the ZOI, What would you recommend?
Edit: The line about attacking Nomads and Wild anywhere are very important, tell me why i should remove it?
The ID you are using (if I understand the writeup correctly) is the LSF ID. While you are unofficial, you shouldn't get to decide what your ZOI is if the ID you use already has a set one.
Until you are official, you should either change the ID, or stick to the ZOI allowed for that ID.
As for attacking Nomads anywhere, that should be changed to anywhere within your ZOI.
Also make it clear that your writeup is still in progress.
(02-25-2017, 04:37 PM)The First Order Wrote: Obviously pictures that people use for their characters are imports from other franchises like Underworld and so on... yet that is not against disco policy, but 3 words put togeather is? I dont think so sir...
Those pictures only exists on the forums, your name will exist on an ID within the content of the game, two very different situations. The former is harmless where the latter starts to move towards copywrite law.
(02-25-2017, 04:37 PM)The First Order Wrote: The ID is still a work in progress. I do agree Battleships are to much, i will remove that line and players who would like to have one can do an SRP like i have.
as for the ZOI, What would you recommend?
Edit: The line about attacking Nomads and Wild anywhere are very important, tell me why i should remove it?
Your ZoI should remain as Liberty and surrounding systems with the Nomads and Wild line changed from anywhere to "within ZoI." Though honestly with these changes you may as well just use the LSF or Navy ID.