' Wrote:No matter what... the GMG did not really annihilate them. I would say they kind of ignored them, since they were headed for Kusari anyway.
Or perhaps the GMG was engaging other Rheinland forces in S-13 at the moment. No telling what was happening in the rest of the system, SP only shown the small strip between the Chugoku and New Berlin jump hole.
OK I was reading some rumors on helgoland now and they say that ALG was hired by both Rheinland and Kusari to recycle the junk. Further more they said that they took care about that assignment for two reasons:
1. Its obviously lucrative as the GMG left many wracks behind with intact drives and such
2. To help improving the relations between Kusari and Rheinland
Most Important: One rumor said that GMG allowed ALG to settle near the yanagi area to recycle the debris.
So there we are. The devs messed this one simply up. Thats all.:mellow:
Off topic:
Also interesting: It is said that they ain't that abusive as kruger and daumann and look out to treat their workers properly. Thats why they let the junkers do the job in the radiation to deal with toxic waste heh.
Looks like the Red hessians should go easy on them in the future :sleep:
No surprise they are allied with IMG
*confidently nods with closed eyes like knowing everything ... hell he DOES know everything!*
History is dictated by the winners, interpreted by the losers.
The Bundies are academics, you're absolutely right. And that is also the exact reason why they hate the GMG. Regardless of whether or not their nation suffered a blow when it was led by a particular regime, it still suffered a blow.
Let's go back to history.
Kaiser Wilhelm decided to back the Austro-Hungarians up in their war against the Entente, and the Germans ended up losing the war. They provoked it, they lost, and you expect the people there to deal with it?
NIEN.
The Bundies did hate the imperial system that Rheinland followed, but they were also nationalistic. They interpreted the loss not as a mistake made by the Kaiser, but an unfair victory over Rheinland - the nation that they love so much, they would die to make it better.
Like any good, nationalistic German after WWI, the Bundies transition their hate for the Reich over to their hate for the people who beat them... When you combine that with the shame that their well-trained, well-equipped(lots of codies on Imperial Fighters...) military was beaten by a mining organization, war reparations, and the loss of a lucrative, job-providing territory.....you have a group of very pissed off Rheinlanders.
There's no reason for the Bundschuh to like the GMG. They were invaders that not only defeated the nation they love, but insulted the same nation as well.
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Sounds logical on the first glim but the war is a hundred years ago! do you have rumors to back that up? And in general, socialists ain't that national. As they are progressive and fighting for an idea and not a nation, they most certainly think about getting the socialistic idea into every house before blindly hating one.
' Wrote:Sounds logical on the first glim but the war is a hundred years ago! do you have rumors to back that up? And in general, socialists ain't that national. As they are progressive they most certainly think about getting the socialistic idea into every house before blindly hating one.
Well, in general, yes, but I get the feel that the Bundschuh are crazy nationalists who, being academics, are not blind to what Daumann/Republican and especially Kruger (for whom the war was fought) do to their people. They want socialist reforms because they care about their nation- more of a progressive standpoint, rather than a Marxist one, even though which one does terrorism is reversed in this case.
Nations are ideas...and Socialisim is a national system, not an international one...I cannot think of an example of a socialist trying to get anyone other than their nation to become a socialisim...sure, they may think it is good for everyone...but actually trying to make foreign nations socialist?
Moreover, 100 years could be a nice, long time for war reparations to chafe, espesialy with a touch of Rheinlandish propaganda to that effect. Things have been getting worse for them in those hundred years, and they could use the sigmas, but cant because of an old treaty. It could easily be taught in schools that the GMG were the start of, and continue to perpetrate, Rheinland's economic difficulties.
sov: Please just edit that last part. A flame-war with such persons doesn't make any sense at all. He will take care him self, about flying out here quite quick I think. So just relax
I am not so sure about that propaganda. We only know that there was a public revolution where rheinland became democratic. then the socialist party was forbidden and in disco, some fascists took over the club and built up a church for the kanzler. Right. Looks more like recent stuff to me. It seems that this house is more then any other concerned with internal problems or at least it should be played that way. And as most of sigma 13 fields are depleted, the system ain't even attractive any more.
Edit: I planned to go to bed, but now I gonna check out all those damn Bundschuh-Rumors.
Edit2:
The bundschuh:
History:
In 700 AS the BU initialized an insurrection against the monarchy in dresden. They were the ones who armed the revolutionaries. They replaced the royal government with a "peoples coalition".
After the insurrection along with other aristocratic parties they got expelled by the government they helped to install, as those parties were controlled(bribed and such) by daumann and kruger (715) and still are.
Characteristics:
The BU inforcard on the rep is just totally wrong. The bundschuh ain't pirates ant they surely ain't surviving because of the RH supporting them but rich intellectuals of NB giving them financial support.
They have sig 13 and hamburg holes around the block. At hamburg the vierlande prison, the NB JG and the westfalen are popular targets for the BU.
They are hiring peeps from LWB, Hessians and even Kruger and daumann.
And thats it. Thats all you can find in Bruchsal base. Conclusion: They simply don't care about foreign stuff. So why should they shoot it?