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Poll: Do you link the Gunship model? Would it be a suitable ship for the bretonian fleet?
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Bretonia Gunship
Offline FallenKnight
09-06-2012, 04:22 PM,
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Bretonia Gunship


[color=#000000]I == Background ==

Quote:Bretonia Gunship Info Card: The gunship class is a product of the Royal Bretonia Navy, created primary for anti-fighter duty.


II == Gunship Possible Stats ==

Considering the ship's size, weapons and maneuverability expectations the only stats Jinx and I could propose for the ship are: 6 guns (with strange arcs), ~ 90-95k armor and 400,000 power core but Balance Devs oppion is necessary as always.


III == Bretonia Gunship Images ==

Vanila Freelancer Bretonia Gunship Concept Art
Old Textured Bretonia Gunship
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[Image: syp1ea.png]


IV == Bretonia Gunship/Gunboat Comparisons ==

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Bretonia Ship Line Comparison
Comparison/Similarities with the Destroyer



V == 3D model viewer (by jinx) ==
http://p3d.in/U12er/xray

VI == Suggestions ==

1. Original look - following the bretonia ship line (bridge, body, engines, weapon platform)
2. Standart name containing ship class with no nicknames.
3. Standart info card, similar to the remaining three bretonia cards.
4. From really a lot of possible hardpoint position the below image represent the one we both agreed to be most suitable and less broken, due to the fact bretonia "ship platforms" can offer strange weapon arcs (for example the bretonia destroyer)
[Image: nyu6bc.png]

<div align="right] VI == Team ==

Jinx
Fallen Knight


Special thanks to Jinx for fixing the bretonia capital ships textures by turning them in to UV and making the proper texturing of the gunship with the original colors !
Special thanks to Aeternus Doloe for giving us "light green" to work on this project with possible future inclusion in disco.

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Offline Jayce
09-06-2012, 04:29 PM,
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To be honest, Bretonia has no need for a Light GB. Their current one absolutely ruins Fighters and Bombers, even more so than other Gunboats. Their turrets mixed with the massive core and excellent arcs means it's just a hedgehog of turretfire.

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Offline Swallow
09-06-2012, 04:29 PM,
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I disapprove the model of low quality texture job.
Edit: I`d say rather insufficient than low.

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Offline Miranda
09-06-2012, 04:31 PM,
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I wouldn't be against it, since Bretonia has the least-loved shipline of any of the houses. Is there a model of it already done though or is it -just- concept art?

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Offline Swallow
09-06-2012, 04:33 PM,
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Also I would like to know if LOD1 model has been done.

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Offline Jayce
09-06-2012, 04:35 PM,
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I think I voted wrong in the poll.

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Offline Swallow
09-06-2012, 04:37 PM,
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' Wrote:I think I voted wrong in the poll.

I will vote for you with alt.

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I am on discord: Roal-Yr#5994, I don't log on forum more than a few times a year.

I am not making ships for FL anymore, I am making my own space game instead:
https://github.com/roalyr/GDTLancer
https://roal-yr.itch.io/gdtlancer
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Offline FallenKnight
09-06-2012, 04:37 PM,
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' Wrote:I disapprove the model of low quality texture job.
Edit: I`d say rather insufficient than low.
Make sure that Jinx did his best to use standart capital ships textures from the vanila, which are the only "broken" in the entire freelancer modding. He did some tricks of his own to texture that in the proper way.
Another question is are you fan to the bretonia textures? I am sure the answer is no, but the current ones looks far more "heavy" and suitable on the gunship instead if Jinx used "templar skin". I assure you of that.


' Wrote:To be honest, Bretonia has no need for a Light GB. Their current one absolutely ruins Fighters and Bombers, even more so than other Gunboats. Their turrets mixed with the massive core and excellent arcs means it's just a hedgehog of turretfire.
Bretonia never had a real active gunboat similar to kusari/rheinlandberty/ - standart Houses. Their gunboat is classified as very light cruiser (vanila one carry only 2 battle razors and 1 defense gun).

For 3 years a lot of people, part from all official factions of bretonia and the indies, were saying that the bretonia gunboat is outdated and underpowered. In 4.86 most of the elements were buffed: armor, damage for the guns, forward gun damage, but the general weakness remains - the huge size.

With no doubt the bretonia gunboat can own any other gunboat 1v1 but in real massive battle its the first to fall.

- Lore RP reason: for bretonia to build these ships are: because they are cheap, because they are fast to be build, because they are primary anti snub - suitable to take care of multiple GRN snubs, and an excellent support ship for the bretonia heavy gunboat.
-OORP reasons: bretonia never received anything added in their ship line for the simple reasons most of the ships are multi purpose. Bretonia dont need for example: cruisers, battlcruisers, SHF or carriers but a ship that can support what they still have. The only broken element so far is the duty to take down fighters and fight them for a longer time - the gunship may do the job right.

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Offline Pacific
09-06-2012, 04:39 PM,
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I am definetly up for it in RP Lore bretonia needs more lighter Gunboat to counter enemy fighters and intecept bombers and as I can see its small cheap and easy to build by the already war damaged Bretonia. So I vote yes I am totally up for it. About damn time bretonia received some attention towards its capital line.

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Offline Jinx
09-06-2012, 04:41 PM,
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http://p3d.in/U12er/xray

surround view without skinning

since i use only a freeware program - thats the best that i can do with the bret skins that are rather a mess from my point of view. the ship has no lod atm, but i ll check if the vanilla textures actually come with lod information.

whats up to discussion is mainly the design as is and how it fits into the royal army shipline.

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