Tweak Core 1 POB's for battle bases(?)(or add a player built WP)

[R.I.P.]

I miss the old days of trying to get from Baffin to Tau 29 when there was a base guarding the hole. But too many cried and cried and cried over a base guarding a jump hole. I found it a lot of fun trying to work my way through in my transport, also enjoyed meeting the owners and getting my ship added so i didn't get shot at by the base. But like so much in disco fun stuff gets removed due to certain people crying about it over and over. I think platforms are fine but yeah i see no point in spawning a base for a battle.

[Binski]

I miss the old days of trying to get from Baffin to Tau 29 when there was a base guarding the hole. But too many cried and cried and cried over a base guarding a jump hole. I found it a lot of fun trying to work my way through in my transport, also enjoyed meeting the owners and getting my ship added so i didn't get shot at by the base. But like so much in disco fun stuff gets removed due to certain people crying about it over and over. I think platforms are fine but yeah i see no point in spawning a base for a battle.

Exactly! The first time it happened to me was also Malaclypse Base in Baffin. I then sent an angry message out, condemning them for acting like they owned the system. I found out shortly afterwards, they did own the system! It is not the end of the world for that sort of thing to happen. In the Omicrons, with Kappa Defense station, it was fun for those always trying to remove it. Also, glad to see you still around R.I.P., its nice to see the Smuggler's.Dream still flyin every so often!

Perhaps to make weapon platforms online ONLY when base is under attack(shield is active)

Ye so you only need to hug the base to trigger them. Changes nothing.

Platforms need to be removed.

If you want the solution without removing them, platforms should be inactive and only be activated by the staff man when the actual attack is about to happen.

You must have had a bad experience with a WP. Because removing them or making them only work under GM control (or with shields) is exactly the opposite of adding more to do with them or around them. But this is mostly referring to separate destroyable WP's. You could just log a ship capable to blowing it up, come back do so, no need to fuss. Some of us are practiced enough to survive most of the time, it is possible, and better than removing options from everyone to save you and a few other weaker players a bit of trouble.

As to normal WP's from POB's or indestructable NPC WP's, POB ones are just fine ( I made suggestions on how to balance that as well with setting a min of consumable ammo for a respawn, fixing the amount of respawns to how much ammo is stored). NPC WP's would then just become a bit of additional firepower but the majority of the 'danger' would be posed by player built WP's, which would be unshielded and be destroyable pretty easily unless they were defended by players, or built in clusters.

What you guys call 'hugging' is actually just a tactic. Its war. You use every advantage you can, and that's ok, its actually the point, and is a skill. I'll often try to use a base or asteroid to absorb a CD if I want to try to get cloaked in battle. If someone will CD you while you are close to a base, if they weren't hostile before, they will be then, and the base might absorb the CD and start shooting your pursuer. That's freelancer.

Platforms make people cancer and hug the pob in seek of protection. It has to be removed, I believe. Changed to cruise disruptor, inhibitor, additional repair module (increases repair rate), etc. However, I am not sure could any handle the pob plugin and will not screw it if it's already bug itself pretty often (impossible to the dock, missing pobs, etc)

What's that? Add a cruise disruptor on top? That's a great idea, then those WP's would be a definite threat to be dealt with as soon as someone can get out there. Wow, something to do that has an actual effect, and doesn't require processing, permissions, voting, or staff oversight! How about to remove them, players can make big ships and go shoot them themselves. Then you guys can go around removing all the destroyable WP's popping up all over the server and have some fun with the pvp.

So I suppose at this point a POWP would be better than using POB's but using the bases is still an option. Either way, if you can't see how this sort of thing would help and work, I can only wonder. Don't just think of yourself trading, think about all the other times. Most of the time people are afraid of new stuff because they only envision worst case scenarios first.

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[darkwind]

Another solution then
Making weapon platforms be activated by base owner for a certain time period only
(manually when siege happens)

Like
/wp on 14 (which means make them active for 14 days of siege)
/wp off (if he noticed siege ending early)

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