Very Important- About RP and PvP

[Othman]

I should have said that this is from my point of view. I forgot to add that, but what do you think when a battlestar docks on Cambridge and {C} forces log on in NL and Leeds, and the one in leeds jumps to NL. As soon as that happened me and Orvidos (conversing over skype chat), we thought you were comming to help so we jumped into NL.

Also, we did not ram you to my recollection. I was shooting you with my guns, but i do not remember ramming.

I have already said in my post that when I saw a {C} member online I told him about the incident and asked for backup which is so normal in my point of view. That is because unlawful ships had infiltrated Bretonia and he entered NL so what you have thought is true and there is nothing wrong with this. But I have not personally contacted him or another person via some kind of program such as MSN or Skype.

On the other hand, I have been spending lots of my time with these guys and I spent nearly an entire day with BlackOne character to fix my tag - make it a BH - in order to be proper with {C} rules. The only thing left to do was a name change so I did not personally think that requesting help from my friends would be against Rp. And what actually leaded me to call for backup was that you were infiltrating the Bretonia space. I always give information when I see an unlawful faction's ship causing trouble only within Bretonia space to a SF member if I see them online. Sharing these kind of information is also against Rp? I just want these matters to be clarified and that is why I am trying to give examples in a range of variety.

And also to add, a Sf member asked me if I needed help and I told him that only if he were near and had the free time he could join me. Thus, he came to aid me kill a destroyer - which is Deus.Encarmine - in Cambridge when I was logged in with my {C} fighter, so is this also against Rp? We are aligned with SF and requesting help from an aligned guild's member or his personal interference is against Rp? ( this is another event not linked with this one )

About ramming, I have never spoken about it and after the incident 2 rogue ships came and tried to provoke us with some speech which did not make me feel uncomfortable. These guys roamed around our location for some time and at last Prinz asked one of them to drop his pilots at the cargo bay. After recieving an unaffirmative response he engaged one of the rogue ships. So we felt to engage them too in order to help Prinz since he is a SF member and prevent 2 rogues attacking a SF in front of us which is totally unacceptable. These rogues have rammed me at least 3 or 4 times but I have never not complained about it nor told a word about it.

And last to add about what Prinz has stated. I have never said that Cambridge is our system or something like that. I personally only feel to engage unlawful ships within Bretonia borders if I am not the invader side. But we do not engage without making any warning as GoR had done to me in Gamma at sight for once which is their style and I respect it.

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On the uncharted lagoons of anguish, I sail with a canoe made of my sins.

[Dab]

About ramming, I have never spoken about it and after the incident 2 rogue ships came and tried to provoke us with some speech which did not make me feel uncomfortable. These guys roamed around our location for some time and at last Prinz asked one of them to drop his pilots at the cargo bay. After recieving an unaffirmative response he engaged one of the rogue ships. So we felt to engage them too in order to help Prinz since he is a SF member and prevent 2 rogues attacking a SF in front of us which is totally unacceptable. These rogues have rammed me at least 3 or 4 times but I have never not complained about it nor told a word about it.

And last to add about what Prinz has stated. I have never said that Cambridge is our system or something like that. I personally only feel to engage unlawful ships within Bretonia borders if I am not the invader side. But we do not engage without making any warning as GoR had done to me in Gamma at sight for once which is their style and I respect it.

It does not matter if others have done it to you (the ramming), you should have gotten a screenshot of it and reported it. However, this does not give you even a sliver of justification to do it yourself. Just because others can do something, doesn't mean you can. Its against the rules, not matter who you are.

Again, giving warning is not a requirement for anyone UNLESS its against a transport. Between two military ships that belong to NPC/PC factions that are hostile to each other, attacking on sight without warning, is allowed. Just because you do, doesn't mean others are required to do so as well, nor does it mean the other person/faction is a bad person/faction just because they are not like you.

{C} went out of RP, take this as an example, and learn from it. Otherwise your time here won't be a very pleasant one.

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[Nightfall]

Hmm, not so off-topic, someone just pointed out that a name change for 'BlackOne' isn't even posted. It is posted for a Transport... makes me ask...

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If the stars should appear one night in a thousand years, how would men believe and adore and preserve for many generations the remembrance of the city of God? - from 'Nightfall' by I. Asimov
The Outcasts consider Siniestre Nube a sacred place for several reasons. Early explorers discovered a jumphole within the depths of the cloud that leads to a strange world of ringed stars and strange craft. All ships in the burrial ground are placed facing that hole to honor the Alien Spirits. - An Outcast rumor

[Othman]

Firstly, theres a misunderstanding here I think. In the incident the ramming problem occured between 2 other ships. I did not ram anybody.

Secondly, for the name change of BlackOne, since our guild is changing its policy now that character will stay out of the guild and it will be guildless. And the transports name needed to be changed since it also isnt included in the guild from now on. I could post a name change for BlackOne in the near future if any realistic offer comes from a lawful group requesting me to join them. Otherwise it will stay as it is a freelancer at the moment.

EDIT: I also did not want to mean that attacking on sight without a warning makes the attacker a bad guy in my mind. I said I respect them, and I will always respect these kind of deaths. And lastly to add for me is that I believe my post has reached its goal and I now have a better understanding of Rp thanks to all of you. In this manner, I will try my best to behave better in Rp and Pvp issues from now on.

Best regards

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On the uncharted lagoons of anguish, I sail with a canoe made of my sins.