house civ nerfage

[Ipuvaepe]

Interspace gets 90% to the LN GB, 80% if you keep the forward gun.

It should be 90% either way, li_gunboat_forward_gun01 and dsy_li_gunboat are both in the Liberty Naval Ships column. Forward guns are not supposed to cause an additional nerf over their ship type.

EDIT: But seriously though, do want a goddamned junker gunboat. The Ahoudori is just not junker-looking, and the Conference is meh.

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[Gentlefood]

I fought tooth and nail for OS&C to have access to all the House civ tech at 90% so I won't be happy if this suddenly gets revoked.

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[Silmathien]

I have a 90% penalty for Fl ID'd Geisha and i'm good with it. Missing old ID's though, especially Civilian.

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[Coin]

if FL can't fly civ ships, what can they fly?

FL ID is supposed to be about making your own choices, and this suggestion seems to make the FL id into a regional thing.... which isnt such a bad idea...

Kusarian Freelancer
Bretonian Freelancer
Libertonian Freelancer
Rheinlancer
Gallic Freelancer
<strike>Borderworld Freelancer</strike> would just get abused

we could include these in /restart <house>, and we'd see a lot more variation in the encounters. granted, this is freelancer, and this seems to be headed towards 'houselancer', but thats a better thing than factionlancer or independent pirate lancer

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[AeternusDoleo]

Or we just leave things as is which is fine. That the house civilian factions get a small boon to the house civvy tech over your average john doe freelancer is not a problem. It's the same thing as if we'd set Freelancer and all current 90%'s to 100, and give the current 100%'s a boost to 110 (and then rebalance ships accordingly, so there'd be no net gain). But that's a lot of work for really no gain other then surpressing the "power is 90%" message on the Freelancer ID using a house civvy ship.
Personally, there's better ways to spend dev time I think.

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[Tenacity]

House militaries have their own ships to use.
House police have their own ships to use.

House civilian ships are meant to be used by civilians, independents, corporations, and freelancers.

The tech chart should reflect such.

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[Quorg]

Check your facts. FLs take a 10% loss on House Civilian ships.

http://discoverygc.com/wiki/techcompat_table.php
Edit: @Hone, House Corps take no nerf on House Civ.

This.

Eliminating all of the non-faction ID's already caused huge damage to FL RP. Nerfing FL's even more will kill this server. Nobody wants their sandbox character to be forced to fly a starflier.

We should instead eliminate any nerfs that house factions have on their respective house civilian ships.

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[Hinak]

What are these and what is purpose of these?
I read the topic twice but i can't understand what is it about and for what kind of house you guys are talking about so please any body will explain it for me.

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[Curios]

I will repeat the Hone here: What's wrong with Freelancers flying house civilian ships? There is not much of those in the first place and most of them are 5k transports and unavailable for Freelancers anyway. Freelancer with Grizzly freighter? Why it's an issue at all?

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[AeternusDoleo]

Graveyard. This topic should have stayed there.

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