Hypothetical thing with the Hessians

[Hone]

Seems silly. The hessians wouldnt do that. Better to have the absorb some of the simillar rhienland factions, so players arnt spread around so much unable to keep too many factions going.

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[Maximk]

Seems silly. The hessians wouldnt do that. Better to have the absorb some of the simillar rhienland factions, so players arnt spread around so much unable to keep too many factions going.

Now thats definately bad. I heard this kinda before. People going on about. "Oh. It would be so much easier if all rheinland unlawfuls were hessians, because theyre awsome and have caps. QQ"

But all the other factions have something special. The bundschuh as a party. The LWB with their quest for Stuttgart. Even the unioners, because noone likes them, at all.
All the people playing the other rheinland factions love them, so your idea is most likely impossible

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[Curios]

Just fix the issue that the whole gameplay is built around the capships to give capshipless factions a chance

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I can't see it being fixed anyway so enjoy your hessians

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[Thexare]

[quote='Highland Laddie' pid='1367019' dateline='1372787672']

Although, I could see them trying to form closer ties with the Mollys to make a sort of Miner's Union (maybe to rival IMG) and try to take over the Omegas, Dublin, and Dresden.

This is the best idea I've seen here, in that it actually makes sense.

[Curios]

side question is - hessians and molly are a bit far from each others, yes there is a base in Cambridge but what it's doing there now is beyond me since in before it was near the leeds hole and in there there was dublin hole not far from it. Now the leeds hole is at the world's butt and the base was left to flat pointlessly there.

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[Cryer Pharmaceuticals!]

some people just like small factions no one cares about, that's the appeal. is it so bad if you don't see an LWB every day? there's like 80 of them on Darmstadt in vanilla.

merging will lower activity rather than raise it. if I was a bundschuh, if I wanted to be a Hessian I'd be a Hessian already. turn me in to one and I just stop playing that guy.

I don't see the problem in them being small, there doesn't need to be alarm bells going off for every npc faction without a big playerbase.

yeah the ID of the Hessians totally eclipses the LWB. so what does that mean? if you see an LWB, that dude really wants to be an LWB. he's gonna have a character, or a big connection to the lore or whatever. something matters more to this fella than flying the biggest spaceship around the biggest area and shooting the most lasers.
if this is something we need to stamp out, then hey.


for the other stuff: I think Hessians getting Dresden is cool in lore. govt could kill the gate and lanes so it wasn't silly and so forth. gameplay wise tho, gotta thing of daumann and Kruger - those bases should probably already be abandoned in lore, but in gameplay aren't they a decent chunk of their mining zones and buy points? could give them new stuff, but where? this game needs more systems like my teeth need hair

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[Blodo]

Regarding the plan for Hessians and other unlawfuls: 4.87 will see a number of changes to Rheinland that should make other unlawfuls have a lot more action than they do now. The main issue is one of gameplay: Hessian ZoI spans the best mining zone in Rheinland (O-7) and if that is empty then you can either go New Berlin where RM will be or go find some Corsairs because your ZoI spans the majority of their ZoI also. On the other hand Unioners are headquartered in Bering/Hamburg which is empty the majority of the time, there's no trade from Liberty to Rheinland due to obvious reasons and the other places they and the Bundschuh have as their primary ZoIs (Munich, Frankfurt) are mostly empty as well. The way the RHA is run, the activity is centred mostly around the western fringe of Rheinland and the Omega systems, so that the other unlawfuls have more room to operate. This is clearly not enough due to reasons unrelated to the Hessians themselves, hence the Munich redesign and various other things that should help activity in the east of Rheinland. On the LWB side of things: Synth Foods is getting a much needed boost to gameplay visibility, so if we're lucky they might be able to play out their lore as well, rather than being "Hessians lite". I'm hoping for an eventual Synth base in Stuttgart to aid that as well.

Regarding Hessian presence: In the end I'm perfectly fine with Hessians hovering around Dresden, Stuttgart and sometimes New Berlin and Frankfurt and no further really. The faction at this moment is geared mostly for encounters with the Corsairs and whoever else will be encroaching on Hessian space in Omega systems. As far as 4.87 goes, Munich should (barring a sudden decrease in server activity) be a nice place for corporate miners/traders to go to, so by extension the Military and also various unlawfuls - both Rheinland and non Rheinland.

In terms of lore the Hessians are still very concerned with the government of Rheinland, but you have to understand Hessian RP on the matter: the strategy is a creeping campaign - you expand influence and arms until you are "too big to fail" (merits or shortcomings of that strategy notwithstanding, Hessian commanders can be just as stubborn and foolish as the next guy and we do try to RP that out). As long as the threat of Liberty against Rheinland is close, the biggest threat to the Hessians will continue to be the Corsairs, and even once the Liberty war ends it will take some time before the Military is actually ready to begin a campaign into the Omega systems, never mind whether it will be willing to do so considering how treacherous that space is. So a Rheinlander joining the Hessians will likely be told "Omega systems belong to the people of Rheinland, we have to fight for our space" and then be told how securing that area will help them launch a campaign against Rheinland once the Corsairs are crippled. Of course the Corsairs will never be crippled, but in RP that's not what the Hessian commanders believe.

Regarding Hessian - Molly angle: O-3 Bretonian presence will bring Mollys with them. Lisburn Rock is a prelude to that, it will become more important in terms of lore and hopefully gameplay once Bretonian activity in O-3 increases.

[Remilia Scarlet]

*Claps*

But how exactly the activity in O3\cambrige is going to increase? Nothing was mentioned on how it's going to be done so I assume there is just hope that it will happen eventually. Also as it seems, everyone around are so pissed about Hessian behavior so not really willing to play with them at all.

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