revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions

[Highland Laddie]

Guess what, The Order.

I said that!

As for Zoner needs to combat Nomad Marduks....this is essentially the RP role the Order is there to do.

See?

[Coin]

option two - but let the current players have a grandfather clause for srp (if they have a backstory on the forum and would be eligible for srp if they had applied.

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[puppytaste]

Why not have a new Zoner frigate (something like the salvager) for generic zoners and make all zoner caps exclusive to officials?

Also, I find it very strange that the Fearless was renamed the Zoner Q-Ship. Might as well have gone all the way with 'Zoner QQ-Ship' with all the flak we get for having them.

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[Sabru]

Actually warranted gravedig here.

pointless discussion - we are about to revamp the zoner capline anyway - so it ll all become a non issue.

with this 'informative' message from jinx, would the devs care to explain?

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[Enkidu]

Whenever I see Zoner players calling for guns to solve scenarios that could be solved with words I get more confident that removing those caps is the right thing to do, also to Zoner players in their roleplay.

CW| Were really good at using RP to worm out of situations, an example of zoners who can RP zoners without the need of caps. A shame they didn't get official .

We're still here. However, nobody is responding to "unlock the darn unofficial thread" PM's - which is getting irksome.

Zoners survive by appearing useful to everybody - imagine an interstellar IND with less assets and a vast amount of inter-factional politics. As to the usefulness of capitals?

Well, I've never found a role-play excusable reason to use one according to CW's present (self-imposed) Roleplay handicaps. Phoenix role-play reasoning behind their possession as does TAZ, but CW and OSI?

Not required, not utilised.

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[lIceColon]

Nonono, on second thought, diplomacy right?

Then: Give zoner the ability to call in Order protection NPC squad.
/sos
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The reason diplomacy never works is because it never works when you want it to. Whuddygonna do when a marduk gone' kill you? it's not like your clever proficiency in humanized nomspeak is gonna deter the blue.
And it's not like there's always a friendly competent order player nearby ready to follow your crap cap in whatever mundane task you're doing, so yeah that's why zoners have big ass guns.

[Lunaphase]

Honestly unless the new zoner ships were given weapons and armor to defend themselves from the things that want to kill them you are basically turning them into roving ATM machines for anyone with a cruiser.

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