The Collector

[Rudo]

Just throwing this out there. Since the Recycler and CSF has risen to their places as the bomber/miner SHF hybrid and the monster combat freighter respectively for the Junkers, the Collector is largely unused. Its original purpose is as a highly durable fighter with a good cargohold and limited agility and offense.

I don't need to tell you these two ships manage to fill the original specialty roles for the Collector to a much fuller extent. Both the freighter and SHF have more durability, more firepower and much better cargoholds.

The Collector has its advantages in terms of somewhat smaller size and better agility, but it's a lame-duck VHF with its limited turn arcs and relatively low firepower. The reasons for this balance was because back when it was balanced, 120 cargo and 110/110 regens were worth sacrificing power for. But with a 260/260 SHF with 200 cargo, and a super-plant freighter with 7 forward firing guns in the mix. its original job is done better by ships that have come into their own after it.

Is there some way it can be looked at again to give it a new role and new life?

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[mjolnir]

What other new role does the model seem suitable for?
I can't really think of any tbh.

Though yes it could loose some regens and get more turning (something like 1.05-1.1).

Anyway are you complaining that your new ships are better than your old one? :)

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Igiss says: Martin, you give them a finger, they bite off your arm.

[AJBeast]

What Rudo says is true, ever since the Recycler popped up, I don't think I got my Colector... well, except for practice matches and such.

Maybe make the Colector more HFish? Well, for Junker standards that would mean that it would have the same size, LF firepower and light VHF turning. Hah. Hah. Hah.

Oh, and Rudo, don't go around saying that our ships are actually halfway decent, they might just go and nerf them! Maybe we could get those god awful Barragers back to being even more god awful...

[Rudo]

What other new role does the model seem suitable for?
I can't really think of any tbh.

It is what it is. Scrap Miner/Escort VHF with a spacious cargo hold, and limited combat ability.

If you make it into a freakshow ship with the agility and plant of the Voidrunner just to see if all the lolwuts buy them I'll find it hilarious, but that's not what it's for.

Though yes it could loose some regens and get more turning (something like 1.05-1.1).

Bringing it in line with the Templars and Titans of the mod while keeping it down to 5 guns to compensate for the big hold sounds good. We're of the same mindset there.

Anyway are you complaining that your new ships are better than your old one? :)

Long answer: In terms of what the Collector was designed to do? The Recycler is a SNAC target but is more versatile overall. The CSF with the freighter buff also has more uses in more situations. The new ships are fun to fly and can actually stand up for themselves.

Short answer: Yes. :P


And AJ, being polite and honest gets you listened to. Anyone with a brain knows the Junker line won't be screamed at for nerfs anytime soon, though I'm expecting posts from those poor Xeno Eagles with full Suntigers/Black Widow loadouts who attack my Recycler with a Molecular shield.

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[AJBeast]

Sarcasm=/=Impoliteness. Not that I have much of a reason to go around spewing verbalized pink unicorns, sunshine and happiness.

Uhm, yeah, something productive ... Buff its agility, yes. Please. Pretty please. Maybe then I won't have Eagles running circles around me while I try to hit them with 600m/s guns.