Hmmm...

[Serpentis]

As a Outcast player, since 08 I say: No you can't "kick it" with Cardamine, it's impossible to quit completely, you will die.

People have found alternative routes to that, by cybernetics (Enclave) or something else.

But no, kicking Cardamine is close to impossible, and especially if your outcast born.

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[Exsiled_one]

Not really now. Mutations can occur.

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[Serpentis]

People have found alternative routes to that, by cybernetics (Enclave) or something else.

And that didn't imply that?

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[sempai17]

there's really no need for an admin ruling on this type of situation. what your proposing doesn't require a special RP ID. As long as you've got the RP, (and it doesn't metagame, IE: roleplay GOD*) most things are good to go.

I like to use the "Proof" method.

Fact: Cardamine makes people less fertile
>bearing a child= less effect by cardamine
>Less effect by cardamine= slight immunity
>slight immunity + selective breeding= higher (if not total) resilience to cardamine.

your are probably a product of the mid to early stages of the "selective breeding" process, which allowed you to "kick the habit".

that is just MY theory/explination on your character. you don't have to go with it. come up with something, and as long as it makes logical sense, the general populace will absorb it.

-semp

*NOTE: you cant roleplay god, but you can roleplay someone who believes he's god.

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[Exsiled_one]

Well there's also intense testings in cryer base.
there's radiation effect of omega 11 when you were on skirmish there
there's omega 41 black star radiation
there's blah blah blahhhhahbahbahbahba


there's possibly trillion reasons to think of to make someone feel "special". yay for special people. I think i'll go make a civilian ID freighter.

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[Dragonslayer]

As I see it, the cardamine you consume mutates the DNA in the cells it comes into contact with.

The affected cells need cardamine to live on, and they die off if they dont get any.

I dont think the affected cells spread on their addiction to neighboring cells, so its not like a virus that affects and spreads all your body.

If you consumed only a little, not many cells are affected, and you can probably survive the loss of the addicted cells when you stop taking cardamine. But you body remains damaged unless those cells that died can be replaced by it.

If you took too much cardamine, too many cells are addicted and your body wont survive the loss of those cells when you stop taking cardamine.

But I see no reason why any "positive" effects should remain after you stop taking cardamine. You are more likely to be something like a wreck until the dead cells are regenerated.

[Magoo!]

It's like any other drug. The positive effects go away once you stop doing it.

What you are proposing is akin to keeping a heroin high while going cold turkey. It's silly. I'm not saying you can't do it, I just think it's mildly ridiculous. But then again we have <strike>furries</strike> other stuff that doesn't make any sense that people did because they wanted to, so... *shrug*

Do whatever you like. In my opinion, it's silly.

-Edit- To clarify my first bit, it's not entirely accurate. The positive effect is mostly... You know... Living. Once you stop doing it, you're going to die in a week or two.

-Double Edit- And if you want, my Enclave pseudo-science for your enjoyment.

As you read, Cardamine stimulates HGH secretion by duplicating the number of secreting cells as well as increasing secretion rates from those cells. Without the drug in the system, the Outcast body is afflicted with shock, followed by a coma, and quickly thereafter by death. Human growth hormone, as the chemical messenger of your body to say, “Grow!” is essential to life. Deep Generation (all generations following the euphoric fits of puberty leading up to 600 AS) Maltese bodies are dependant upon the constant and appropriate influx of HGH due to it being a genetic norm for them. As Cardamine is depleted through the Outcast system, HGH secretions slow almost to a halt at a rate that would be considered slow for even an average human. A constantly dying stream of cells within the body cannot receive the message to be replaced and slowly overwhelm the system at a rate that exceeds that of the rate of excretion.

The shock is followed by a coma which the body induces on itself in an attempt to slow processes and thus slow the rate cell decay. By giving them no reason to work and therefore no reason to exhaust themselves and die, the body buys some time for itself. It is, however, not enough. An Outcast body will die within two weeks of the coma from any number of causes; ranging from asphyxiation from mucus reaction by dead cells seeping into the lungs to heart failure as blood cells die and are both irreplaceable and unable to be rid from the body quickly enough.

The human kidneys, while attempting to filter out and excrete dead and harmful material, get damaged from ‘overload’ (similar to if you had a kidney stone which was not removed) and thus hormone secretions of erythropoietin, which stimulate red blood cell growth, fall dramatically. For this reason, heart failure is most often the case as the short red blood cell life of ~100 days quickly renders the cells of ninety-seven days before withdrawal dead. Then those from ninety-six and ninety-five days before and so on pile up, until the un-refreshed cells become a thick solution which both clogs arteries and fails to carry oxygen to the body.

It's part of a bigger thing, but the HGH-producing cells affected by Cardamine are the somatroph (sp?) cells if you care.

[Agmen of Eladesor]

It's part of a bigger thing, but the HGH-producing cells affected by Cardamine are the somatroph (sp?) cells if you care.

The adult male human body can still excrete Beta Human Chorionic Growth Hormone now due to medical conditions, which are what females produce when they're pregnant. That's pretty accepted now, and something we can correct (albeit with surgery and chemotherapy.)

We effectively have artificial kidneys now. All you do is hook up a full body blood filtering machine - aka kidney dialysis. I really don't think we'd have that much of an issue - if medical science wanted to do so - to find at least some artificial way of dealing with cardi.

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Oh god... The end of days... Agmen agreed with me.

[TFinnegan]

So...
Three pages later...
*rubs eyes*
Damn the science, lad!
Roleplay it!
So your character is unnaturally old, half-nuts, and cranky most days.
It makes far more sense than some of these half-cyborg 'things' with 'corrupted AI...and grafted-in nomad fibers...that created some kind of lycanthropy...' and the like, that troll around Sirius daily.

It won't make one whit of difference when the photons start flyin anyway, so what harm can it do?
Roleplay it!
It's your creation, thus beautiful and in need of watering and care.

Oh, and also. Noone's come up with a coherent reason why you shouldn't, cept for their opinions.
-Finn

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