They don't abuse game mechanics this way. Using waypoint to fly off the plane is hard, since all waypoint put on navigation map, that does not touch off the plane object, will be put on the horizontal plane.
Witch brings the next logical full off-topic question should the big haulers cruise with 350 speed if they are made for line usage and basicly does not need the cruise engines for long distances/off plane flights?
And what about if this traders are official tagged and bring faction activity? They are out of the RP environment ,avoid all kind of RP interactions and bring faction activity at the same time.
(10-09-2013, 10:51 AM)Knjaz Wrote: Official faction players that are often accused of elitism, never deploy them and have those weird, immersion killing "fair fight/dueling" suicidal hobbies. (yes, i've seen enough of those lolduels, where house military with overwhelming force on the field willingly loses a pilot in a duel. ffs.)
' Wrote:They don't abuse game mechanics this way. Using waypoint to fly off the plane is hard, since all waypoint put on navigation map, that does not touch off the plane object, will be put on the horizontal plane.
Trust me, it's really not hard to do trade runs while flying off the plane. My point being though, that this goes back to your FL/RL time argument. Tabbing out is the same type of abuse you are talking about yes?
' Wrote:Trust me, it's really not hard to do trade runs while flying off the plane. My point being though, that this goes back to your FL/RL time argument. Tabbing out is the same type of abuse you are talking about yes?
I know it's not, but you talked about using WPs at first.
In this case, I don't call it abuse I see where you're going and I understand your stance and that makes my point moot and irrelevant on such case.
Yet I'll go off my main point (and will get shouted for it?) and add up that ramming system wall without blue message can be abused in a way that doesn't bring more profit instantly but avoiding 4-hour-rule for miners mainly, where they have little to lose, but much to gain.
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I see all this arguing, where I acknowledged many times that "opposition" is right, simply pointless. One man just pushes up opinion and my sarcastic statements as facts to derail my side of opinion and make bad image for faction I lead, simply because he has another view and bases calculation on another variable or simply dislikes me as a person.
' Wrote:I know it's not, but you talked about using WPs at first.
In this case, I don't call it abuse I see where you're going and I understand your stance and that makes my point moot and irrelevant on such case.
Yet I'll go off my main point (and will get shouted for it?) and add up that ramming system wall without blue message can be abused in a way that doesn't bring more profit instantly but avoiding 4-hour-rule for miners mainly, where they have little to lose, but much to gain.
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I see all this arguing, where I acknowledged many times that "opposition" is right, simply pointless. One man just pushes up opinion and my sarcastic statements as facts to derail my side of opinion and make bad image for faction I lead, simply because he has another view and bases calculation on another variable or simply dislikes me as a person.
Well you are talking to me now, and I havent done that. What I am asking is if the crux of your argument is that by gaining more RL time, while not making anymore profit with your FL time should be considered an abuse of game mechanics? Just trying to understand your argument better.
I see all this arguing, where I acknowledged many times that "opposition" is right, simply pointless. One man just pushes up opinion and my sarcastic statements as facts to derail my side of opinion and make bad image for faction I lead, simply because he has another view and bases calculation on another variable or simply dislikes me as a person.
I wasn't arguing with you, I was trying to explain it to Praed. You came back after you admitted that what I was saying was right and said that my example was a bad one because I used a quick route that was low profit. You then said you could use an Excel spreadsheet to prove me wrong. You were the one looking to argue, as you had already admitted what I was saying was right but felt the need to say it wasn't when I said it.
I'm not making a bad image for the faction you lead, you did that yourself by claiming that your faction utilized cheats to be pro. Not really something I'd joke about myself, a casual passerby likely wouldn't catch the sarcasm.
You could also due with dropping the victimization attitude, you've only yourself to blame for how people treat you.
But even if you trade off the plain you'll still use some chokepoints as JGs or/and JH thus you'll have possibility to encounter someone who might have hostile intentions. Where if you ram system wall to respawn into the starting point of the trip you'd be avoiding interactions completly on this "leg".
There's where I call it abuse to lower profit losses by abusing game mechanics. Maybe my opinion is moot to you and/or others, but that's still my opinion and I can bet you won't change it on this subject.
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@ Daedric,
Might be. I simply don't care any more on this arguing. On the IC subject, I joked once, yet you bring it twice at least. You're doing more harm when stating it as facts than I did it with hard-to-tell sarcasm.
' Wrote:Maybe my opinion is moot to you and/or others, but that's still my opinion and I can bet you won't change it on this subject.
Well, since you have decided to tell me what my opinion of your opinion is, I guess I will just go with that, and since you have said your not willing to consider new information in your opinion, there is really no point in having this discussion with you.