Let's talk on the Nephthys

[Govedo13]

Instead of making OP ship to counter the nomad ship- nerf the nomad ship- Logic?

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Official faction players that are often accused of elitism, never deploy them and have those weird, immersion killing "fair fight/dueling" suicidal hobbies. (yes, i've seen enough of those lolduels, where house military with overwhelming force on the field willingly loses a pilot in a duel. ffs.)

[Omicron]

Nephthys is fine, buff Avenger - it needs it drasticaly.

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[jakub963]

Nomad stuff being that good..?
Sorry, but what are you talking about..?
We have excelent LF and very good GB. Thats about it.

Also... "Its K'hara! Gank Gank Gank Gank Engagebu Normade!" Anyone?

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[Kaze Dagon]

Nephthys is fine, buff Avenger - it needs it drasticaly.

Buff Guardian. LN has nothing to do with Order now.

Their bounty board even reflects that.

And lol @ Govedo.

~K.

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[Lennox]

As already mentioned, Order tech is above High Tech definitions. I am not sure how exactly the logistics of the Order is working, but they have to be good, in addition to that know about how to develope great technologies. Nephthys was one of them, as well as the Bastet with it six class 10 guns. Though, not the same, but there is no other ship on Disco I know that got a possibility to mount so many High Tech guns like that. It is indeed true, that in reality we are not really under attack by nomads ingame. But yeh...inRP it has to be used. Using it's stats for a non-Order vessels seems...odd for me, since I believe the Order is at the top of High Tech weapons....which would explain why they are so powerful.

Just...everything because of the lore. I don't complain. I am fine with it. And if you compare the amount of good PvPers in Liberty (also the amount of ships there) with the PvPers in Order space...the topic explains itself I think.

[McNeo]

I didn't say anything about a nerf to do with the Nephthys; if anything, I'd prefer one on the nomad ships so they aren't so grossly unkillable in the hands of somebody with an above average amount of skill on tap.

Yes Kaze, ingame=/=lore. Which is why I invite those who think as you do to choose one. Having both is as impossible as having fairness and equality at the same time.

My views on the Wraith are probably well-known by now, but I doubt that particular balance will change. It's not as if the wraith doesn't have its own clear downside to its use (5 forwards) though personally I dont believe it to be enough.

Lennox: So because I am good at PvP (lets say that I am), I should be forced to fly a worse ship than somebody who isn't? I mean, I could just fly a Nephthys instead and shoot at Liberty folks, and then you have the problem of a good PvPer in a good PvP ship, going around and PvPing everything.

I'm certainly not the only one.

[Kaze Dagon]

It's not as if the wraith doesn't have its own clear downside to its use (5 forwards) though personally I dont believe it to be enough.

Gimme 4 Vipers's and i'll show you a whole new definition of hurt.

So juicy. Yum yum.

~K.

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[Kaze Dagon]

And after this awkward silence, ye.

Nom ships and shiz are balaced well vs their lore enemies and vice verse.

Now if the Liberty ships/guns are well balanced against their lore enemies?

Lolno.

Food for thought, can close el threado.

~K

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[McNeo]

Some people agree with you, some people disagree with you (namely me), both are keeping silent because I think most relevant points have been said.

And the discussion became about the Wraith, again.

[dodike]

Military/Police > Large paramilitary (eg BHG) > Small paramilitary (eg Order) > Large pirate (eg LR) > Small pirate (eg LH) > Civilian

I don't think there would be small paramilitary and small pirate tech lines at all and those groups would rather invest into getting existing technology from large R&D spenders or work together developing shared gear.

I don't think lore can apply much.