Why people hate Gallia?

[Pyromaniac]

I'm going to throw in my two sense worth and agree with Anon.

Assuming Gallia did get technology from the junkers in sirius then how did they manage to keep themselves secret for so long? Surely somebody would have gotten drunk at somepoint and leaked something to someone and then boom its blasted all over the net.

The problem with conspiracies is that they rely on too many people keeping too much information quiet for too long a time.

Oh you can also replace 'conspiracies' with 'Gallia' in that last statement.

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[Narendran87]

Again not all junkers did the work... only a few a very few did this work... The usual junkers collects parts while these group of members gave them to Gallia.

[Mímir]

Well as i said you are too ignorant to appreciate the things... Its just because you cant stand it OPed with reasons.

And one more Gallia is way more balanced than other Houses.. Its got too much enemies so even by Oping it they have balanced it...

Dont consider Gallia separate from Freelancer. Its a part of this mod and should be treated as one.

Dude that's quite a weak retort. Don't call people ignorant if they don't see eye-to-eye with you - especially not when their arguments make more sense than yours...

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[Anonymous User]

Well as i said you are too ignorant to appreciate the things... Its just because you cant stand it OPed with reasons.

lolno. I never said i dun like it because its OP - i dont care. I dont like it because the RP behind it is lame in my opinion (not fitting to FL at all) - i would even nolike it when it would just have starfleas

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[Valinor]

Other.

I don't like it, i think too much effort was put in it by devs, which means that the rest of Sirius ended up having less attention and development.

Gallia looks to me like an exaggeration in everything, 900000000 planets, 9000000000 nebulas, 900000000 clicks to travel, 900000000000 bases we don't really need etc etc etc

Oh ye, and i don't like french ))

ps: you may think next time, if you want to make a survey, to not use biased answers in the survey itself that force the voter to give you only the answers you want.

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[Narendran87]

Well I have a junker character and I can testify that their wartech is substandard:-) Barragers... Pffft...

And again, just because I want something doesn't mean I get it. It is not so much the reason why they are at war that is of importance, but instead the very nature of war that drives progress in the wartech department - simply because it is a "do or die" situation, where all your resources are invested into developing weapons.

In a society not in war you'd have a hard time convincing the population to make the same sacrifices as the populations in nations on the verge of destruction does. Its simply human nature. We only give ourselves fully when there are no other options.

But I don't think this discussion about why Gallia-tech should be OP is fruitful. As I see it it doesn't really make sense, but I dont care because it serves as an instrument to attract players, which is needed as players dont have the same connection to this new sector as they do to their Vanilla-ish Sirius.

again lack of lore knowledge. The Populace arrived with their motive to revenge the Sirians. This wasnt an one man's aim. It was the aim they ever had. The lust for revenge was always present in them. The crown never took time to convince them. Those who lost their belief in the revenge motive were the council.

No.

Gallia could never have become as powerfulll getting their "tech" from junkers.

They must have got their tech from aliens just like Liberty did.

Only way to explain lanes and gates.

And focussing on taking revenge building up armies with no other purpose to conquer an enemy they "figure out should probably exist like that at this moment".

Sorry but thats not normal human behavior.

Gallia is strongly affected by aliens. DKV or Nomads or other.

Either that or the RP reasoning behind it is just crap.

They never got their tech only from JUNKERS. THey had their own tech improved while using the tech from junkers. Its not like Junkers Supplies are now GRN weps. Theres an Corp called Solar which managed to invent their techs and used Sirus tech as a guidance and as a rival to their own tech

[Narendran87]

Why do I not like Gallia?
First of all, I like Gallia. I like Gallia if I disregard Freelancer, Discovery and the server.
I stop liking it, once I start looking at what it means for Discovery.

Gallia means even more systems, nice systems, I must say, but still very big systems. Having it active
would mean the small player base we have being even spread more thinly. The shiplines I like, the
transports are just awesome, the bases look big and, even if they are a bit clustered and weird on some
parts (what are those rings good for!?), give a feeling of there really being a lot of people on them, not like
the "We got a docking port and nothing else"-vanilla bases.
What I dislike though: It's just too much. The idea of a big house is too, a big house in the Taus is not
needed and too much, the systems have too many planets, the space is too big, the house is supposed to
have too many ships, too much influence, too many systems, too many bases, etc. pp.
It could make it's own mod. Really. Cut out Gallia, put it in it's own mod - done. Got a nice new mod there.
Would have everything it needs. Could even make a story for it, that the French flew their own ship
somewhere else than Sirius.

And this brings me to the other big issue.
The Story.
Bretonia was the second to last arriving in Sirius. The last one being Hispania if I'm not mistaken. At least in
vanilla story - not taking into account the Colonials and Gallia. Bretonia suffered from being so late because
they had to pick THE WORST SPOT in Sirius, having almost no planets to settle, having few (easy
accessable) ressources etc. Now, Gallia comes in EVEN LATER and finds a spot where they can build a fleet
from, which dwarfs all that has ever been seen in Sirius? And they have way more planets settled than any
other house. Something just doesn't add up there.
I wouldn't even go into the fact, that the story is weird anyway, as the Kusari - Bretonia war couldn't have
been working the way it did, as Kusari lost their whole fleet in the nomad war (due to both Rheinland AND
Liberty invading Kusari). But that's not the topic here. Now Gallia comes in and is supposed to fight win in a
second against Kusari, but not crush Bretonia as fast as well, even though Bretonia already couldn't stand
against Kusari? (...may I point out, that Bretonia was the only house not directly involved in the Nomad
war? ... sorry, other topic again.)

What I'm saying is this:
I like the ships.
I like how some of the systems look.
I find it unfitting, unnecessary and just way too much.
I think it doesn't make sense.

And most of all:
I wish all the work that was spend on making Gallia was put into Sirius.
This is, what bugs me the most.

Again lack of Lore knowledge. The Allies or whatever you call them rejected gallia region since it had less no of habitable planets and space FOR FOUR HOUSES. While sirus had ample space for 4 house. Thats clears things for you? So the french government chose Gallia to colonise while the others chose Sirus.

[Maraud3R]

They never got their tech only from JUNKERS. THey had their own tech improved while using the tech from junkers. Its not like Junkers Supplies are now GRN weps. Theres an Corp called Solar which managed to invent their techs and used Sirus tech as a guidance and as a rival to their own tech

And how exactly did they manage to build tradelanes and gates? When that tech was stolen from the DKV and a best kept industrial secret by liberty and the Order?

And how exactly did they "use Sirius tech as guidance" without anyone even noticing them?

And why exactly didnt they have anything better to do for 800 years than to prepare for an armageddon war that will kill everyone?

[Anonymous User]

Again lack of Lore knowledge.

we all nubs.

sorry!

ALL HAIL KING BANES!

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[Pyromaniac]

Okay, let's take another stab at why the lore is bad.

Can we really believe that an entire populace can stay mad and bent on revenge for eight hundred years?

No. It's illogical. That would be like assuming Canada and the US are still mad at each other over the war of 1812.

It would be like saying France is still angry at Britain for capturing their North American colonies.

It would be like saying most of Europe still hates Italy because the Roman Empire conquered all of it.

It would be like saying... you get the point.

It's just illogical. There are always more pressing current concerns for people to get angry over rather than continually being angry and plotting revenge over something that happened hundreds of years in the past.

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