CR: Kronos and the Zephyr

[Lunaphase]

Id like to see you say that if your mako was RMBS sized.

The kronos is a heavy battlleship with a medium plant and armor rating. picture giving a lib dread the hitbox of a KUBS and thats pretty much the result, with LESS armor on the larger hull.

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[Dashiell]

Just a thought about the old CR/IMG BS.

What do you need firepower, hull or core for, if your opponent can't hit you? If a ship isn't made to charge on a dreadnought, then don't, FFS.

~Mako lover.

That's not fair. The Mako can dodge better than the Kronos. (wha-? The Mako can DODGE better than another ship? Never thought Id say that one day)

But ye, not really a good comparisson. Its like saying 'Ossie can kite very well, so why do Dunkirks get hit while kiting?'

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[Dane Summers]

Now that it has become clear that our ID will not be opened to allow flying other ships then CR shipline (by ID, we can only fly CR ships) - we are left with the options presented here in this thread.

While in the end, I can see this as being low priority for the dev-team, and my hope was for suggesting the least amount of work as a compromise - I just got told no on that. I don't have much hope on this, but I'm asking anyway.

We want the Zephyr back, either with its old stats, or with a stats buff.

Or, we want the Kronos re-balanced to a heavy battleship, or its model and agility tweaked to put it more in line with a medium battleship.

Or, to add two more docking modules and 200+ cargo to the Kronos, so it can function as a battle-carrier.

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[Petitioner]

I really don't know why the dev team is so resistant to all of these ideas - they'd be relatively easy to implement and make sense inRP and from a balance perspective. All the bickering here is people butthurt about stuff totally unrelated to the purpose of this thread.

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[Dane Summers]

The person I talked to in regards to the ID Change refused to give me a direct answer as to why it was denied - saying only "I don't think its a good idea"

*shrug*

Either way, that leaves us with whatever is decided here.

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[Death.RunningVerminator]

The Outcasts or Corsairs are also no factions that would be able to do this, but they still have them, so what exactly is your point there Prysin?:P

Well in that case you could say no single faction is realistically able to make and operate battleships at all since the amount of fuel it would need would be so exponential it would require whole planets to even get anywhere.

[AeternusDoleo]

The CR doesn't need to be flying other ships. You've got a VERY powerful cruiser which can serve as your anticap needs, especially against those huge Valors which can be mortared into submission from extreme distances. The CR at present doesn't have the resources IRP to build heavier ships. The Kronos is not modeled or designed as a heavy battleship, it's a medium. Medium core, medium regens, medium hitpoints, medium araments with good arcs. Now, if you'd rather have the Zephyr back as a (very) light carrier, we can see about arranging that. The model is still in the mod as there's a base using the model. But from what I can tell from this thread Dane, is that you're pushing for this while not all CR players are behind you. A poll on this might be in order.

Reclassifying the Kronos as heavy is unlikely to happen.

Oh, and personally, I feel capital class ships should stay the hell in their own faction, or be SRPd. Originally the tech hook was set up to enforce this.

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[Dane Summers]

Yes, except SRP's will be automatically denied if requested for a PVP Advantage, which is what we would be requesting other ships for - to give us classes of ships we don't have.

I'll make a poll, and we'll go from there.

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[GTB]

If the Zephyr ship are the two used as weapon platforms outside the CR shipyard. They look very cool for ship models, best looking cap ships on the server I'd say. Much, much better looking than the Kronos.

Bring em back, I'd swap my Kronos for one easy, even if it's a worse cap ship. Just looks awesome.