DW, USS, Independent Lawfuls

[Donos]

Alright, last I checked, this thread was about overuse of capships. Not about whos RP is better. If you want to argue about RP specifically, go make another thread, don't spam this one.

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Now, with the infinite creativity of the human mind, jsut about anyone can concieve of an RP to get any damn ship they want. Heck, I could write something up in about 10 minutes to get a Nomad Battleship. (It wouldn't be any good, but it would work) So I'm not going to argue about whether or not you should own a ship.

All I ask is that players please keep eachother in mind. If you see a VHF being chased by a GB, please don't hop on your cruiser to join in the fun. Please remember that everyone else you see is a human playing a game. They're out to have fun, and a fair test of skill against others. Theyre not here to provide target practice for your iNvunc18le u83r ship. Instead, hop on a fighter to join in. Or jsut go off and play with one of the other hundred or so people online at any given time.

If everyone could just be more considerative of other players, the problems will be fixed. No rules or patches needed. No massive work on part of the Mods, SPs or Admins. Just a commitment by everyone to be fair to other players.

Is that to much to ask?

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Donos
[QCR]Edmund.Duke

[Niezck]

Yet another example of this...

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We just had a fight in New York. The LR and AR combined managed to assemble two fighters, two destroyers (later on, only one got in the fight though) and a battleship.

The opposing force consisted of a BH BS (independant), ATLEAST 2 Cruisers (independant) ATLEAST a BC (independant), a couple of gunboats (1 is LSF, other is independant), and a couple of fighters (one is independant, one is LSF).

Now i wouldn't really mind this is we were attacking them but as it went we were just assembling at Rochester when the LSF turned up, spotted our BS and sent a system-wide message for all "lawfuls" (we all know that means every person that can spend a few days trading) to come to Rochester and own us. Result? Us all either dying or running away and going to play traders 'cos we're bored of logging on to cap fleets waiting to tear us to pieces.

Can we PLEASE put some sort of restriction on cap ships? It really is getting out of hand when you end up with more independant caps than the faction they're helping and the faction they're fighting combined...

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~Grav

[Reverend Del]

Donos, I salute you sir, and the same to anybody else who made the same point.

There are two ways to stop capwhoring, the first is to remove them from the mod completely, but then certain factions, like the various house navies just wouldn't work. The other option is to try to promote good RP, if your in a fight 2 v 2 all in VHFs take a few seconds out to tell the capship no, this is an RP not a PvP battle.

People seem to think that PvP is a part of the RP server and it isn't (excepting Conetticut), everything should be within the bounds of RP, everything, including smacking ten bells out of each other.

The whole capship thing could be sorted if there was a way to get through to everyone about good RP in game, ultimately the forums aren't important if you can't match up to what you've written down and half the server don't even know the Stories sub-forum exists anyway.

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[MB52]

Yet another example of this...

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We just had a fight in New York. The LR and AR combined managed to assemble two fighters, two destroyers (later on, only one got in the fight though) and a battleship.

The opposing force consisted of a BH BS (independant), ATLEAST 2 Cruisers (independant) ATLEAST a BC (independant), a couple of gunboats (1 is LSF, other is independant), and a couple of fighters (one is independant, one is LSF).

Now i wouldn't really mind this is we were attacking them but as it went we were just assembling at Rochester when the LSF turned up, spotted our BS and sent a system-wide message for all "lawfuls" (we all know that means every person that can spend a few days trading) to come to Rochester and own us. Result? Us all either dying or running away and going to play traders 'cos we're bored of logging on to cap fleets waiting to tear us to pieces.

Can we PLEASE put some sort of restriction on cap ships? It really is getting out of hand when you end up with more independant caps than the faction they're helping and the faction they're fighting combined...

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~Grav

It wasn't quite as unbalanced as you claim.
1 bs vs bs
2 cruisers vs 2 cruisers (not our fault one of yours didn't make it after the crash)
Battlecruiser? (I don't recall there being any BCs at the fight, though maybe it showed up and I didn't notice it)

You guys kinda came at a bad time, just after we assembled a fleet to defend zone 21 from a corsair fleet.

I was going to switch to my LF, but when I heard reports of enemy battleships/destroyers, I brought in the big stick. Next time you wish to have fight with no capships, I suggest not bringing any yourselves.

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[Niezck]

It wasn't quite as unbalanced as you claim.
1 bs vs bs
2 cruisers vs 2 cruisers (not our fault one of yours didn't make it after the crash)
Battlecruiser? (I don't recall there being any BCs at the fight, though maybe it showed up and I didn't notice it)

You guys kinda came at a bad time, just after we assembled a fleet to defend zone 21 from a corsair fleet.

I was going to switch to my LF, but when I heard reports of enemy battleships/destroyers, I brought in the big stick. Next time you wish to have fight with no capships, I suggest not bringing any yourselves.

The whole point is...we didn't HAVE a second destroyer...we only had one in theory which really doesn't help in a battle...

Also, you had a couple of gunboats which did a fair bit of damage to the dessies and fighters. Now, i'm not saying we were massively outnumbered all i'm saying is that the amount of independant capital ships there was just ridiculous. Not only that but i'm certain more were on the way, the destroyer coming from Buffalo spotted another cruiser en route just as we all fled and he logged off.

The point still stands, we need to put a limit on independant caps. What if we both would have waited 5 minutes more? We would have gained a destroyer and would you have gained atleast two more caps which would've massively unbalanced the thing.

~Grav

[pchwang]

There are two ways to stop capwhoring, the first is to remove them from the mod completely, but then certain factions, like the various house navies just wouldn't work. The other option is to try to promote good RP, if your in a fight 2 v 2 all in VHFs take a few seconds out to tell the capship no, this is an RP not a PvP battle.

People seem to think that PvP is a part of the RP server and it isn't (excepting Conetticut), everything should be within the bounds of RP, everything, including smacking ten bells out of each other.

Del, you're completely right. But this is impossible, since +50% of the people playing on the server are NOT registered on the forums.

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[Donos]

Alright, why not just password protect the server, and force people to register on the forums to get said password. It wouldn't solve everything, but it'd be a start.

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Donos
[QCR]Edmund.Duke

[ivr56]

Alright, why not just password protect the server, and force people to register on the forums to get said password. It wouldn't solve everything, but it'd be a start.

thats is actually a great idea

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[Thor22]

Alright, why not just password protect the server, and force people to register on the forums to get said password. It wouldn't solve everything, but it'd be a start.

Second.

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[DBoy1612]

The idea of passwording has gone by many times before, and the topic kinda died off when Igiss posted a simple "No". I'll look for it, but I'm not making any promises.

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