(03-24-2013, 02:20 AM)Tel-Aviv Wrote: ... The fact is, zoners "own" the omicrons ...
Zoners own nothing but their ships, their freeports, and the clothes on their backs. The only territorial claim that the Zoners make is the system of Omicron-74 (and Baffin with regards to the TAZ).
(03-23-2013, 10:22 PM)Tel-Aviv Wrote: Just figured I should be emotional when I post this.
Bad idea.
(03-24-2013, 02:20 AM)Tel-Aviv Wrote: You mean because of the zoner track record? right.. zonerzonerzoner if I recall.
The fact is, zoners "own" the omicrons and they are not linked to house-space but are limited in their own zone of influence; And seriously bro.. I have yet to see more than 4 orders online ever since the nomad id got open ( hell in general its rare to see them ) - i guess the default sense tells people to go for nomads rather humans which is really the problem.. just because its open that doesnt mean people should forget about humans.
Besides, you can't tell me not to shoot nomads who have shot zoners before, if its infront of my eyes or something that happend a few minutes ago.
The irony is, you can't attack nomads ( say 2 jellys ) and u know they want to kill you, so they just wait for other lolz to come and then engage.
Seriously now, Zoners are humans eventully and nomads should be the primary concern to all humans - make it zoners or corsairs or even the phantoms (/mythbuster).
If nomads were open to all of space then that would make sense, but as long as they are here to stay.. you gotta cut zoners some slack.
1. Zoners DON'T own the Omicrons, if anyone owns the Omicrons, it's the Nomads. The Omicrons are classified as the "NOMAD Worlds".
2. If you make the Nomad ID able to go anywhere, you'll have Liberty full of Nomads within a day, which isn't wanted.
3. Zoners try to avoid conflict, they don't go looking for a fight. If you see a Nomad as a Zoner, you should be running to the nearest Freeport, not engaging it.
(03-23-2013, 10:01 PM)Tel-Aviv Wrote: You know what they say.. sometimes you gotta feed the trolls, blah im pissed as hell..
Now dont be upset about this information, im not whinning ; it is simply a reality check, and while I was one of the people who wanted to free the nomads.. I didnt think people will be that ignorant and unjust.
You were thinking of the wrong slogan. The slogan you should have been thinking of is "Be careful what you wish for, else you may get it."
You and others simply got what you wished for, & the true reality of it didn't match the fantasy scenario in your head...hence, your anger over it. Call it a reality check, call it a life lesson, call it whatever you like, but everyone has moments like these. It's how wisdom is gained, Dude.
Things will settle down over time & you and the rest of us will adapt to the new reality...at that point further changes can be made according to the new norm as/if needed.
Do what I do & stockpile a mess of chill pills the size of oreo cookies so you can pop 'em when something stupid begins to make the back of your eyes start to throb.
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(03-23-2013, 10:18 PM)Jansen Wrote: People cried for open Nomads, people got them.
People cried for more dangerous Omicrons, people got them.
People cried for more things the Order and BH Core could do, people got them.
Yes people want the nomad id open, but I thought this was a RP sever, no? As it is a RP server, why the hell do the admins introduce a 'No need to RP Engage' ID? You should make the nomads, sorry I mean force the nomads to do at least a small amount of RP. I saw yesterday 10 nomads ganking a Zoner Juganought and they did not RP at all. This is seriously getting out of hand. Especially with new groups like the Swam group...
This is far more then a 'more dangerous' Omicron. It is now bloody suicidal to enter that area. Especially with these new gank squads that do no RP
Yes people asked for more things to do in the omicrons, but they dont want to die after 10 mins of undocking by a nomad Non RP lolwut shoot everything they see as red gank squad.
Personaly I think the admins need to force them to RP. Even if it is normal RP like 'Hi, how are you' rather then ***This one see's other Light (Warmth)***
(03-24-2013, 10:11 AM)Snoopyman Wrote: Yes people want the nomad id open, but I thought this was a RP sever, no? As it is a RP server, why the hell do the admins introduce a 'No need to RP Engage' ID? You should make the nomads, sorry I mean force the nomads to do at least a small amount of RP. I saw yesterday 10 nomads ganking a Zoner Juganought and they did not RP at all. This is seriously getting out of hand. Especially with new groups like the Swam group...
In most cases silently engaging is the best course of action and the best roleplay. Some just can't seem to understand that. It's funny how many think that the more words you spew, the better your roleplay is. It simply isn't true.
As a matter of fact, I'd extend the "no need for a thousand words prior to engagement" to a lot more IDs. The only reason I'm not pushing for it is because I know a lot of people don't have the maturity not to abuse it.
It works for the Nomads mostly because the ID is so limited otherwise.
Fact : Zoners are based in the omicrons ; Zoners supply the omicrons ; Zoners are more active in the omicrons
Zoners Dont take sides In Order/core/corsair/outcast ; 70% of the Omicrons is Zoner based Bases or ZOI.
Yes, Zoners own the omicrons and they must have every right to do what they want (esp in Kappa - 74 - Theta - Delta)
It's true that the zoners do not own the omicrons officialy and the first faction that should be are the nomads, but the zoners will be next.
And I also think that sometimes norp is required, within the well taste; but you can't force a faction to rely on other factions for its survival.
Fact is bros.. Zoners should be the new "Order" as far as the evidence show.