(08-25-2013, 05:39 PM)UK1 Wrote: In my opinion re-uniting our zoner brothers should be of the most important of tasks.
And what would be the point of it? What would be the reason for such distant groups of people to unite? What would be the common agenda, under which they may operate?
(08-25-2013, 05:39 PM)UK1 Wrote: In my opinion re-uniting our zoner brothers should be of the most important of tasks.
Our allies and fows will have to take a back set for now I'm afraid.
One step at a time I think...
A wise person once said that you can't please everyone all at the same time.
I'd like to start the first big step in the right direction.
But currently have my hands tied and can't pull back our defense systems until the POB are fully restored back to full
operating status.... As for moving the bases I'm not really sure that's a good idea but It's not a point blank no.
As for relocating this is a very large task and we have already made O-74 system our home.
Up routing so many family's and under taking such a large re-construction else where I'm not to sure weather its a viable option.
Due to the war,casualty's and looses.
Plus also as someone else did point out no matter where we go someones noise is surely gonna be put out of joint and complain....
But I'll take all these points into consideration.
*THUMP**THUMP**THUMP**THUMP**THUMP*
Thanks for pretty much confessing, by your own word, that ZA wants control of the system. if you didnt, you wouldnt have a problem moving them.
Quote:As for relocating this is a very large task and we have already made O-74 system our home.
Up routing so many family's and under taking such a large re-construction else where I'm not to sure weather its a viable option.
now thats just a load of bull. considering the way you guys operate, it really wouldnt be hard.
Get it through your thick head:
NOBODY WANTS YOU IN 74!
why not go make your little empire in omega-47.
no one really lives there, and there is plenty of space.
or maybe Omega-50... no one living there either.
there are no real reasons preventing you from moving to one of those systems.
Seems like another case of the big boys trying to bully the little ones here. Mind you I have not been following closely, but I have seen these things far to many times not to recognize them. The Order faction has all the zoners bending over and taking it hard, and then one stands up and says no. Now we have everything from inrp attempts to oorp attempts to I don't know what kind of attempts to force them to back down. We have people coming on here telling them how they should rp zoners, interestingly most of those are the way that would be best for the interests of the people making the suggestions.
When the hell did the order become the massive military force we see here? Didnt they just get routed by the nomads and have their home system and most of their fleet like, supernovaed? When did the Order gain legal control over Zoner territory? Why should it be the ZA that back down to the Order? Everyone is like they are allies right? Yea, but what about that means the ZA must back down? Why are the Order allowed to be uncompromising in their principles but not the ZA?
ZA, stand strong, fight it out, win or lose it will be more fun for you that way.
ZA acted like lolwuts, researching nomtech, started being aggressive, Order got pissed zonerzonerzoner ensued, 3 semi-wars later and here we are today!
Anyone mind describing the events that started the war and stuff? Not a tldr. No lolwut stuff either. Just what happened without putting a bias to it would be fantastic.
Order caught ZA with nomads.
Order said hand em over.
ZA said no.
Order got annoyed.
ZA locked down 74 with bases and fleet of Juggernauts.
Order blasts Juggernauts.
ZA leader doesn't seem to understand either faction and so is incapable of attending this "end war talk".
(08-25-2013, 05:39 PM)UK1 Wrote: In my opinion re-uniting our zoner brothers should be of the most important of tasks.
Our allies and fows will have to take a back set for now I'm afraid.
One step at a time I think...
A wise person once said that you can't please everyone all at the same time.
I'd like to start the first big step in the right direction.
But currently have my hands tied and can't pull back our defense systems until the POB are fully restored back to full
operating status.... As for moving the bases I'm not really sure that's a good idea but It's not a point blank no.
As for relocating this is a very large task and we have already made O-74 system our home.
Up routing so many family's and under taking such a large re-construction else where I'm not to sure weather its a viable option.
Due to the war,casualty's and looses.
Plus also as someone else did point out no matter where we go someones noise is surely gonna be put out of joint and complain....
But I'll take all these points into consideration.
*THUMP**THUMP**THUMP**THUMP**THUMP*
Thanks for pretty much confessing, by your own word, that ZA wants control of the system. if you didnt, you wouldnt have a problem moving them.
Quote:As for relocating this is a very large task and we have already made O-74 system our home.
Up routing so many family's and under taking such a large re-construction else where I'm not to sure weather its a viable option.
now thats just a load of bull. considering the way you guys operate, it really wouldnt be hard.
Get it through your thick head:
NOBODY WANTS YOU IN 74!
why not go make your little empire in omega-47.
no one really lives there, and there is plenty of space.
or maybe Omega-50... no one living there either.
there are no real reasons preventing you from moving to one of those systems.
Really? I'm pretty sure making three core 4 bases with factories and defensive structures is a four hundred man-hour plus job, not to mention an investment of hundreds of millions of credits.
(08-26-2013, 05:22 AM)Zelot Wrote: Seems like another case of the big boys trying to bully the little ones here. Mind you I have not been following closely, but I have seen these things far to many times not to recognize them. The Order faction has all the zoners bending over and taking it hard, and then one stands up and says no. Now we have everything from inrp attempts to oorp attempts to I don't know what kind of attempts to force them to back down. We have people coming on here telling them how they should rp zoners, interestingly most of those are the way that would be best for the interests of the people making the suggestions.
When the hell did the order become the massive military force we see here? Didnt they just get routed by the nomads and have their home system and most of their fleet like, supernovaed? When did the Order gain legal control over Zoner territory? Why should it be the ZA that back down to the Order? Everyone is like they are allies right? Yea, but what about that means the ZA must back down? Why are the Order allowed to be uncompromising in their principles but not the ZA?
ZA, stand strong, fight it out, win or lose it will be more fun for you that way.
You've summed it up nicely, more or less, although the ZA is decidedly undiplomatic in all aspects, which certainly contributed a great deal to the current situation.
But seriously, the Order here is making us Corsairs look like total pansies by comparison, and we negotiate peace treaties with Legate fleets.
gone four years, first day back: Zoners still getting shot in Theta :|
(08-26-2013, 06:11 AM)Daedric Wrote: Anyone mind describing the events that started the war and stuff? Not a tldr. No lolwut stuff either. Just what happened without putting a bias to it would be fantastic.
They were farming nomad remains for use in cloak factories on their PoB's.
That's what started this whole shebang, you know, that one activity that literally anyone who produces cloaks does.
Oh, and that the OSI and the TAZ do as well.
gone four years, first day back: Zoners still getting shot in Theta :|
Since I am not following the whole ZA drama too much.
Why are the general playerbase buttmad that some group takes control of some system nobody up until now have expressed any sort of interest in?
It would be like someone claiming Yukon. Yu what? Yukon, it is a system. Someone claimed it without asking someone?! OHGOD LOLWUT ALERT!
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