Information about upcoming Zoner changes

[Spud]

The changes seem a good and logical solution to the drama that has been happening around the zoners so many times. A bit sad to see a ship model like the Leviathan being taken out, but the rest seems good.

Let me now list the prominent zoners that were consulted about the change or even knew about it in advance:

• Absolutely no-one
  

You want my sleep lacking opinion?
No no no no no. Of course I will likely be more wordy in the morning but there's my two cents.

Er....

There have been a LOT of threads and discussions and threads about this on the forum, and Jinx has always been very engaged and patient in talking to people about it amid the storm of insults and rudeness being thrown about. The only way you consider "talking to you" is in a secret Skype conversation where others are locked out?

Some invised post someone ninja-quoted before gettin invised.

Ey Jinx. Don't jinx it like it's the norm.

<3

What exactly have YOU two contributed to the mod, apart from ad-hominem attacks against people who are being constructive for the benefit of everyone?

I find it amazing that Jinx even still bothers to try to find solutions when guys like you are still allowed to be around with that kind of attitude.

All you do is try to keep advantages for your own groups and stomp anyone who uses the same assets as you into the ground, be it with insults, group ganks, or forum arguments that revolve around "I gotta have powerful stuff but others cant because I only use them for cool stuff".

There's absolutely not possibility to be reasonable with your type of people anyway, so there's no other way than to ignore your demands and "arguments".

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[puppytaste]

Sindroms Wrote:
This is real life time players are putting in the game. If that is your stance on the issue as a developer, I think we might as well give Zoners to Massdriver to model on. And leave the lore to the current active factions.
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Absolutely right Sindroms. Who do you think you are jinx? Just because you make a few models for a out of date game you can change years of lore with the click of a button? I do agree that there are wayyyy to many nephs around, and personally I dont fly one because I dont like the model or the rp behind them. But from the looks of those ugly models you have put out, you just trying to damage the Zoner lore. You can do much better than those turds. Aquilon needs no model changes. Your Neph/Levi idea is ok, but your proposed replacements are ugly as sin.

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[Spud]

This is real life time players are putting in the game. If that is your stance on the issue as a developer, I think we might as well give Zoners to Massdriver to model on. And leave the lore to the current active factions.

This is also real life people putting a lot of effort into the mod trying to keep it playable for everyone and not just for the people who came first and who are now trying to dominate everyone who comes afterwards.

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[Sabru]

This is also real life people putting a lot of effort into the mod trying to keep it playable for everyone and not just for the people who came first and who are now trying to dominate everyone who comes afterwards.

you wot?

if you actually, you know, thought about this.... you'd see jinx is doing that.

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[puppytaste]

Well Ive only been around for a few years Sabre, I dont fly a neph, and I feel screwed right now...

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[Gytrash]

Try to keep advantages for my own group? I don't even own either of these ships. But to remove them in a return when there's so much RP surrounding these ships and everyone's been having fun with them smacks of wut.

The zoners have the whale. It has a 5k hold and no guns AND THAT IS THE SHIP THAT I ALWAYS FLY.
The zoners do need to need a battle transport. Of these u want you need go buy a BWT. it has guns galore but less cargo. I don't fly one because I believe in the power of my words.

I've also been trying hard to get the zoners acting at least moderately cohesively. And we have been trying to bash out a consistent lore and changing things as uni like the serves no purpose. These ships will still die to bombers so there's no point in my flying one apart room the cool model.

[Silver]

Ey Jinx. Don't jinx it like it's the norm.

<3

What exactly have YOU two contributed to the mod, apart from ad-hominem attacks against people who are being constructive for the benefit of everyone?

I find it amazing that Jinx even still bothers to try to find solutions when guys like you are still allowed to be around with that kind of attitude.

All you do is try to keep advantages for your own groups and stomp anyone who uses the same assets as you into the ground, be it with insults, group ganks, or forum arguments that revolve around "I gotta have powerful stuff but others cant because I only use them for cool stuff".

There's absolutely not possibility to be reasonable with your type of people anyway, so there's no other way than to ignore your demands and "arguments".

A fine example of the pot calling the kettle back. No need to elaborate on you.
And this is all over again one of Jinx's display of doing what he wants.
Did he contacted TAZ and Phoenix now, regarding this? You know.

The actual people that own the shipline?

Soooo, don't jinx it.

<3

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[8:32:45 PM] Dusty Lens: Oh no, let me get that. Hello? Oh it's my grandma. She says to be roleplay.
[12:12:00] Traxit: this is smut stop

[Gytrash]

Also news flash spud. Mr jinx here was the one who destroyed one of the largest Zoner factions around, an official one and disbanded it because he couldn't be bothered to find someone else to run it.
This was years ago.
I'm not sure he even still plays the game.
He esteemed years of work in a few hours because he was lazy. So he is one of the "ones who came before trying to dominate those who came after"

[Sath]

This is real life time players are putting in the game. If that is your stance on the issue as a developer, I think we might as well give Zoners to Massdriver to model on. And leave the lore to the current active factions.

This is also real life people putting a lot of effort into the mod trying to keep it playable for everyone and not just for the people who came first and who are now trying to dominate everyone who comes afterwards.

Do you even know the point he made.We have invested hundreds of millions to buy the Zoner Capital ships and the equipment that we intended to use it for.

What makes you think that the game is not playable right now.Its easy to say that because you have never spent something to acquire these ships.We have things to lose.You would have known that anger if you had stayed day and night to trade,get the ship you had fancied long enough.

You would never know that. :|

EDIT:You speaking of attitude makes me laugh the hell out.

[Haste]

This seems reasonable enough.

The new Nephilim reminds me a little of the Teladi capitals (Condor or something) in X3.

(Which is quite neat, there's not much like it out there)

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