Technogeist, I tried interacting for a second time as I was given impression that feedback might have been used for the better. I was wrong and I was shot down by 3 or 4 ships, instead of two as you claim to do.
Vendetta, I am pretty shit at using guns too. I don't call 3 of my friends with missiles to gank single target for the blue. If I do call people, it's usually to RP interogation, and not to simply collect easy blues.
But hey, that's your PvP faction. I mean, you spend more time in Vespucci than outside it so far. Noone would mind if you remained there or switched to Conn.
Already got few messages on Skype that relays very similar feedback to what I tried my best to give to you.
But since this is obviously CGS-like group, I forsee a lot of crappy encounters in Liberty with one liners and unethical tactics thrown at others.
Would be best to shape up and be respectful to others before trying anything fancy.
(11-02-2014, 08:10 PM)Snak3 Wrote: Vendetta, I am pretty ***** at using guns too. I don't call 3 of my friends with missiles to gank single target for the blue. If I do call people, it's usually to RP interogation, and not to simply collect easy blues.
But hey, that's your PvP faction. I mean, you spend more time in Vespucci than outside it so far. Noone would mind if you remained there or switched to Conn.
I've already stated how you could've RP'ed on that nice 4 minute cruise where you chased Death through Pennsylvania. That was your fault you didn't type anything. Also, us spending time in Vespucci is us doing our best to get better on the PvP aspect of the game. We spend time training there, and prefer it over Conn due to crowds of people. We also do a lot of Roleplay there with each other. We go over procedure and how to react with things, you know, like how training is supposed to be. We run through drills and we answer questions for the people, whom might I add are the majority in this group, who are unfamiliar with Legion Roleplay.
We'd be more than willing to interact with you on a roleplay level, but from what we've seen from you, being "Lets see" or "Lookie here", is that really something we want to spend time dealing with? There was also the matter of an anti-snub carrier closing in on us when you appeared today in New York. I appreciate you're doing you best to provide feedback, I really do, but your attitude towards us overall isn't as friendly as you might think it is. We're no where near on the level of what CGS did, we've been spending hours doing a faction write-up on a Google document, that I'd be more than willing to show you over Skype. Oh, but no. You'd rather come in to our feedback, and throw mud in our faces. You'd much rather call us crap via PM, and say that we're a sad faction.
You expected a positive income out of an extremely unbalanced fight. We had your fighter outnumbered. Our players use missiles. That's not a bad thing. Our players used a standard tactic, focusing down one target. That's not a problem. The problem I see here is that you lost that fight. Sure, we managed to finally get more than three words from you, yes. I was hoping to get some Roleplay going then and there, but when a Carrier with two Battleship Razors comes flying out behind us on the lanes, we don't really have a reaction that would be positive to that. So please, do your best to lighten up, and let's talk about this issue like gentlemen, rather than having a massive forum-side piss match.
If I'm in a large group and there's a lone fighter we're attacking then I tend to fall back a little, unless I take direct orders to keep on firing. On the other side; if I see a sizeable group of renegade Navy as a Liberty lawful while alone, I'd most likely turn around very quickly. Now, it's common courtesy to keep a battle as balanced as possible and if there was a problem in that respect then I for one would understand your concerns. However, all I've seen here is begrudging.
I tried to speak....after I, and some 5 or 6 of your people, along with another navy, shot down a rogue bomber. (well, we were already shooting it before you barged in with a gb or two and some fighters). The moment the bomber goes down, I tried typing in something, and there is a system message "Take down the navy guys".
(11-02-2014, 08:28 PM)Moriarty. Wrote: I tried to speak....after I, and some 5 or 6 of your people, along with another navy, shot down a rogue bomber. (well, we were already shooting it before you barged in with a gb or two and some fighters). The moment the bomber goes down, I tried typing in something, and there is a system message "Take down the navy guys".
bam, missiles and *ded*.
Yeah, that was my call there. A Carrier had cloaked behind us and we intended to get away from there as soon as possible.
(11-02-2014, 08:10 PM)Snak3 Wrote: But since this is obviously CGS-like group
hahahahaha
Really, Snak3, do you bother doing any research at all before you waltz into threads and start slinging words around, or do you just like the sound of your own feverish hands clattering on the keyboard because you couldn't sic enough LH~A~ on whatever was chewing you up? I know it's become common practice on Discovery to label any group that ever shoots too many things as "PvPwhores", but you could at least try to be subtle about it, and/or not throw any stones when your house is built entirely out of wafer-thin glass.
Spoiler alert (no offense intended, since I think it's more based in fact than my opinion): these guys (assuming they are who I think they are, given that I see a few familiar faces among them) aren't really all that great at PvP, which presumably explains the missiles and so forth. Just because they're not coming at you in a conga line to throw blue after blue into the furnace that is your blazing ego doesn't mean you're entitled to whinge about it on the forums.
In fact, now that I scroll down to read the rest of the thread (better late than never), it looks like the lack of PvP ability was even self-admitted.
On the subject of actual feedback, I haven't really anything to say other than a general sentiment of best wishes. From what I've seen, you're able to get a lot of people on at once if the winds are blowing your way. Just try not to get driven mad by the thousandth dual-missile one-line-only LABC rolling up to spew torpedoes at you, or the sixteen carrier pilots with nothing better to do than decloak at 0 with a full loadout of secondaries.
No, generally you have to win to be whinged at and tarred with that shameful, shameful badge, as well as get a full two pages of negative feedback for said winning. People only get salty when they wind up on the wrong side of a blue.
If you lose, nobody calls you names, but the Kudos thread fills up with "good fight lol" quicker than you can say 'boo'.
Snak3, in your posts a few things become apparent:
You expect other players to show you the courtesy of not running away when you are obviously trying to kill them.
You expect other players to show you the courtesy of talking to you although your aim is obviously to kill them.
You expect other players to show you the courtesy of not getting help when you are obviously trying to kill them.
You expect other player to show you the courtesy of throwing RP logic (the logic that characters would tend to try to save their lives and the lives of their friends or allies) overboard for the sake of giving you fights where you will get to kill them.
You expect other players to show you the courtesy of letting their friends die, ending the activities that they were currently enjoying together.
So my question is...
What courtesy exactly are you giving them, if any, that you expect all of this?
From what I have seen in your posts here in the thread, or on other places of the forum, or from your characters ingame (right now I'm thinking about an encounter with Mr Scorpius when he engaged me with 2 lines, took cover from shots behind a jumpholes and shieldrunning hoping that I would let off and not kill him in a fight that he started, and just running and shieldrunning for more than 30 minutes when he noticed he could not win the 1 on 1 that he started), you don't seem to think is necessary that you show any courtesy at all to other players.
What exactly do you think gives you the right to ask for so much courtesy from others, when you obviously give none, whatsoever.