TAZ/SCRA tech exchange reason -> powerplay?

[Doc Holliday]

Doc, it's not about the tech exchange - as I wrote.
Having the ability to read the very first post may help.
In fact it's just a minor detail which I've pointed out already.

I re-read that post and stand with what I said. As I said, I began positive relations with SCRA back when Alvin Katz was premier. It was RP'd on several different fronts from Omega 52 to Ontario to some RP in Liberty space.
It's a long standing relationship that has been kept quiet......as it should be since we all to often have people who like to power and metagame these kinds of things, you know, reading about it here as a secured transmission or general chat and that take it into server when their character would have no knowledge of it.

[DragonLancer]

Thanks Doc.
But it still makes no sense to me.

Somehow I got a deja vu like the acquired IMG-carrier back in times.

TAZ in Coalition GBs in the Omegas - 'It all makes perfect sense' Roger Waters, 1987

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[Sabru]

Thanks Doc.
But it still makes no sense to me.

Somehow I got a deja vu like the acquired IMG-carrier back in times.

TAZ in Coalition GBs in the Omegas - 'It all makes perfect sense' Roger Waters, 1987

I'm going to stick this little sentence so that you might actually get it.

"TAZ up-arming due to the ongoing Gallia problem and the looming threat from the Order."

We're the most militant zoner faction, so we're just doing something sensible and increasing our choice of weapons and ships for defending ourselves and our system in the light of increased threats. Remember, Zoner tech isnt very good compared to what TAZ could and does face. Getting better tech is an obvious step.

The Coalition tech cells are planned to replace our Order tech cells. They are being replaced because the TAZ-Order relationship is down the proverbial toilet. It would be questionable to use Order tech despite not being on good terms.

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[DragonLancer]

An alternate approach would be the tech of the guys far away from home.
Not to mention that the Order tech used to be based on other's.
But thanks for the insights.

A lot of interesting opportunities I have to say.

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[Mímir]

So the communists now ally with a religious force after having allied with the monarch of Bretonia.

Ehem... Have any of you ever read anything by Marx?

Have you ever read history? Despite being ideological enemies and racial enemies, Germany somehow allied with Russians and Japanese (the latter weren't so happy about German alliance with Russians).

I just pointed out to Mimir such alliance is not impossible. If you want in game comparison, GC are allied with Dragons, despite the fact they are ideologically bitter enemies. So why SCRA can't ally with TAZ, even if economically only?

Your argument would be better, and make sense, if it included opposing ideologies...

...and if Germany and Russia had allied with one another, rather than fight a terrible winter war...

What history books are you reading?


EDIT: I see what you mean, Tabris, and I do understand the desire to develop the faction further. But Maoism is derived from marxism, and in fact it is even more heavily aggressive towards religion and (foreign) culture. Iconoclasm thrived under Mao, he didn't just perceive religion as "the opiate for the masses", he took it one step further and said "religion is poison".

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[Sylvie557]

The way I see it is even though SCRA doesn't completely agree with some of the groups it allies with it knows it needs allies at this point in time. They are biding their time but once/if they gain more power I could see them betraying a lot of their "Allies" they don't share the same views with.

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[Tabris]

SCRA isn't Marxist, it's at best massively modified Maoism with a Discovery twist.

Massively Modified means Modified, meaning it's been changed, tweaked and reformed to fit the State's needs Mimir. Thus Classic Maoism doesn't exactly apply. While most forms of Communism disapproves of religion if not outright bans it the Coalition unfortunately does not have that luxury as many of it's citizens are religious, if they attempted a ban on it they would be facing an uprising against the government, thus they had to adapt and even manipulate it to suit the needs of the state. An alliance with TAZ does not mean the Coalition as a government is accepting the Dischordian way, it just means they are putting up with the 'quirks' that come with them.

But in the long run Mimir to the Coalition it does not matter, the Coalition Government is more focused on acquiring more territory and manpower at present than quibbling over religious differences, they need to solidify their positions and strengthen their forces before opening THAT can of worms. Anyways off to bowling! Wish me luck folks.

[Mímir]

GOOD LUCK!

Anyways, I just want you lot back raiding from the Omegas to Omicron Alpha, shooting everything that moves.

But I guess we can't have that :'(

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[DragonLancer]

@Tabris:
As fas as I remember 'massively modified' means to fit the roleplay requirements to traverse from Starlancer to Disco and matching with some legal stuff.

Myself as older German player had played as SCRA for almost two years and I like the ROLEPLAY - back in times.

Now my critic is that there is way too much personal influence on the mod - overall I have to say.
Regarding this TAZ/SCRA written statement I simply wanted to point out a minor matter which do not match Igiss' requirements.

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@Thyrzul: Your above comment makes no sense to me. Please PM me - in German please.

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[Gypsie Skripto]

It seems there are three things that disturb the OP: tech exchange, Omega 52 supplies and goods flux, and SCRA not following the headlines scripted by Marx on his Communist Manifesto.

To the first one, TAZ are Zen Anarchists and SCRA are communists, a lot of our ideology is shared. If you like so much RL history quoting, check the Spanish Civil war, were communists and anarchists built together a society under the same motto: "Everyone gets what they need, everyone gives what they can". We have built RP with our most logic allies and it has all been for the better. It really surprises me that this would actually disturb someone. We plan on letting go the Order 90% tech allowance in order to get the SCRA 90% tech allowance. Before the patch we planned on just asking, but now that the new rules are in place, we will even have to spend a perk to do this.

To the second one, TAZ is not the only trading faction that helps SCRA. Both OSI and IND are also allowed into Omega 52, and they both have a much larger trading fleet than TAZ. There are also some other non official groups who go there, as well as trader individuals.

To the third: a lot of years have passed since Sol. And also, will you force RL political fluff into an inRP fluff belonging to a gorram videogame, were people play to have fun? Additionally, you say SCRA have no real power to make any difference anywhere. Order doesnt have the power it once had, but Omicron (Golly) is trying to sieze the power that still floats around, organizing it in a different fashion to make it more efficient and not having to drop frontlines and endeavours. I don't see any difference with what Tabris-lead SCRA is doing. They try to strenghten their existing bonds, forge new ones, to be able to harness power in a more efficient way. Have you ever read about the micro physics of power by Michel Foucault? What both Golly and Tabris are doing is really commendable (and I say that as one of the most, if not the most fervent anthagonist to Golly inRP).

In conclusion, this thread is dumb.

I rest my case.

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Gyp

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