Hi everyone, I am the owner and creator of this faction and I've just read through a few forum posts and it seems a "Feedback Thread" Is a requirement to have the oppotunity to become official. We plan on doing this in the future but not right now, but I and the other members of Knight would like some feedback on our RP and how things are run and work.
(02-08-2015, 12:45 AM)Knight Industries Wrote: Okay this is coming from Knight Industries and all Knight Pilots.
The RP between TBH and Knight is fun, we have met a few already and we actaully get RP.
But the few pilots that roam around on 2 Centurions, 2 Cloaky Bombers and a Cloaky Murmillo Battleship.
You need to come to this year not back at the begining.
You are using Freeport 1 as a Staging post for your assaults and regens and cloak battiers. On top of that your demands are pathetic.
Drop cargo so we can destroy it or die.
You just pirated one of my transporters who had Industrial Hardware for 8 million. You pirated a Mastadon yestarday then shot upon a PoB Base (With NO RP on the PoB) Bare in mind. Just to get blue messages.
These pilots are meta gaming very badly with very bad RP and they are ruining the fun for many people within this community.
Okay, since you bothered to make a post on the wrong feedback thread I'll start it here.
I've seen you talking on skype about things Royal.Fortune & Co, which were mostly lies or misinformation to you by your members.
A) We've never demanded credits or cargo and instantly kill them, it is sanctionbait and we certainly know better. The amount we charge is mostly high for ore miners/haulers since it worths alot and prices are kept to 10-15 millions depending on the faction that is hauling and the type of ore. Other cargo is 2-4 millions unless they are carrying base supplies to a hostile PoB (Which you guys did). The piracy tax is not even extreme, these numbers have been kept throughout the years and I remember it quite clearly, there is no reason why we should charge less on enemies carrying ore. P.S: We demand credits only as we have no use for your cargo.
B) Yes, we have attacked the [Star] dudes who are Zoners, they are not the majority however, just a small group. We avoid docking on Freeport-1 nonetheless. Shooting on a PoB to activate the shields to prevent someone from fleeing is not against the rules as far as I know, I've seen it happening plenty of times, recently even.
C) Only Royal.Fortune is equipped with a cloak, nothing else, scanning usually removes your doubts.
I do not see how our checking the playerlist counts as metagaming, considering you and everybody else on the server is doing the same to find some activity? How is our RP inferior to yours, when some of your pilots do not even bother to reply or they are engaging us without any lines of RP? Pirating in a battleship is a really hard thing to do and we put extra effort on using it for such action, but it's by no means against the rules.
If you want RP then I suggest you stop trying to flee or engage silently, there's always the Big Brother watching. Man up and put some more effort if you want to evade us, we certainly put enough effort to be pirating in a battleship. Space is dangerous, especially with Corsairs around and please, stop spreading false rumours about us on skype.
Yes we have been talking about Royal Fortune on skype.
Mostly Lies or Misinformation. Maybe by my members but what i've seen with my own eyes tell me different.
You demanded 8 million from one of the Knight transporters earlier this evening with 5 - 6 ships surrounding him. He had Industrial Hardware onboard.
If I am not mistaken Star Space Port is also a "Safe Haven" For Corsairs.
You are saying you are avoid docking on Freeport 1. So why do I have screens and my people have screens of a few ships docking and undocking of Freeport 1.
Only Royal.Fortune is equipped with a cloak. That is a lie. You had another ship with a cloak this evening was a bomber and also had a warning noticfication onboard.
Shooting upon a PoB that is Core 4 is breaking the rules if I am not mistaken. I will have a look into that.
How can you say Knight Industries is meta gaming. When have we once meta gamed? If so I would like some proof of this because I ensure my people do not do that because it ruins the fun of the game.
Pirating in a Battleship is not hard at all. Especially when there is One Centurion with a CD. Also have screens of this Battleship and a Centurion shooting on a harmless trader.
Knight Industries is known for RP. They do not Meta Game. We do not go for blue messages. We enjoy our RP and that is what we are here for. To bring RP and fun back to Disco.
Hi there. We were only 4 ships though: 1 Murmillo, 2 Centurions and 1 bomber. AFAIK only the Murmillo had a cloak, and none of us restocked at a FP. We used Cadiz to pick up some more CD's once and that was it, NPC's kept us supplied with the few regens we lost during our operation.
I shot some CD's at the Starport during the execution of some Zoner that was trash-talking us while hugging the base, yes. Worked like a charm. Maybe the captain learned that it's a bad idea to sit still in a transport and talk trash to Corsair raiders out for blood and credits, counting on quick-dock and his POB to protect him. We gave him ample chance to reconsider, also after the shield was up, but he insisted that he wanted to call us "cowards" and "pathetic" as his last words - he chose to get gibbed, and you can hardly fault us for that.
You threw a gunboat at our fighters before you knew we had a cloaked BS, plus one of your traders silently opened fire and got killed in retaliation. Your guys bravely flew into the fray one by one and got killed that way too, those things happen and hopefully you've learned from it - the IMG scrambling two heavy bombers without fighter or gunboat support was a big mistake as well. You even personally got offered a 1v1 duel when you flew out (alone) in a VHF to meet us. You took it up, and then cloaked and ran when you realized you were in for a severe trashing. We considered razoring you because it was obvious that you were going to cloak out once you realized defeat, but we didn't. This time, that is. When you bring cloaks, gunboats to fight fighters and silently engage in transports, you force your opponent to escalate the violence. I hope you understand that.
Corsairs robbed and killed stuff in the Omegas, that's what we're supposed to do - that's our role. And it seems we did that to perfection. I hope to see you in space again, but next time you should try to coordinate it better if you want a fight. Even after we robbed one of your transports and killed your gunboat, you had unescorted transports whizzing around the Omegas when you knew we were out there pirating - have everyone log fighting ships and take out the pirates in one go or negotiate a piracy price for your entire group if you are not up for the fight.
I hope you can use the advice for something. Have fun, and safe skies!
Thank you Mimir, atleast someone has written something that is clear and I am able to understand it. From what I see this is true with what has happened.
Your Bomber actaully had a cloak but the Centurions did not.
If one of the transporters silently engaged without any RP I would like proof and I would like to apologies on there behalf. I will be having words.
I will be speaking with my pilots and there will be more Knight RP to be written up. Hopefully this will make things clear for the people of Knight and the people Knight interact with.
I would like to apologise for the actions we have taken here in Knight Industries
I think your pilot just got confused / stressed and started opening fire. These things happen, and I don't think anyone our side is particularly bothered by it. I don't have any proof other than a chatlog with, well, silence. It's all good. Feel free to check the players online list and come shoot us when you see us
Mimir I appreciate what you are saying, Knight Industries are not a faction to go round pew pewing everything. We do things via contracts here on the forums. Such at the Star Space Port and DSE ones.
We do have a security wing which assists allied and neutral ships - IC ID States we can do so.
We will also help transporters if we see they have been attacked or pirated.
We will not bring a fighting wing to the Omegas just to shoot Corsairs.
(02-08-2015, 03:02 AM)Knight Industries Wrote: Mimir I appreciate what you are saying, Knight Industries are not a faction to go round pew pewing everything. We do things via contracts here on the forums. Such at the Star Space Port and DSE ones.
We do have a security wing which assists allied and neutral ships - IC ID States we can do so.
We will also help transporters if we see they have been attacked or pirated.
We will not bring a fighting wing to the Omegas just to shoot Corsairs.
I am not sure you were around in 4.85, but back then - the omegas were like they should have been. Not everyone sitting in a circle around the bonfire and telling stories until the light of dawn, but it was a scary place.
When you went to the omegas either one of the two happened - Either you returned with pockets full of credits, or you returned by clicking the Respawn button.
And boy that was fun. I remember mining in the Omegas on my IMG and slowly seeing Corsairs starting to log and being all like "oh crap oh crap oh crap, gotta mine faster gotta mine faster". Nowdays with stations every 5 seconds and the general buff to transports survivability, they are just not a scary place, that's all.
If you have a lone transport flying in the Omegas, then it should know its taking the risk of easily getting pirated. I in the past few days that I've flown I've had plenty of fun RP pirating, I've nearly considered to drop my piracy demands a few times because some people made me laugh so hard.
I also try to keep most of my demands reasonable, and if you ever thought I've made an unreasonable demand - you could ALWAYS go ahead and you know - try to negotiate it to lower down. All I've seen your transports do is either silently pay it up, or respond with attempt to run/engage.
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