OOC, for the record, my attempts at getting a war going werent out of spite for the players on the LNS/LSF/LPI/SA/etc. (well, not completely, the only players that have really gotten my hatred are a few select xenos).
I just think it'd be nice to have some large-scale combat go down every once in a while. I havent seen any heavy combat (i.e. something with more than 3-4 ships at once) in FL in a very long time.
With the 100+ players our server has on at almost all times, it shouldnt be that hard to get a nice battle going with 20+ people on each side, everything from fighters to capships.
Pilot and Owner of the firefly class ship Serval, salvaged from the Dallas Incident and now employed by the junkers as a trade vessel. http://www.myspace.com/cstek
LNS is not a group its a name of a ship like the USS enterprise(omgh the uss are aboseing power) LNS Liberty Naval ship anyway i admit some of us tend to fire without a warning but only if youve done a crime other times i myself wil give a warning i know it is bad but we are working on it im under the impresion this universe is a lot like world war 2 the navy acting like the coast guard random inspections seazeures things like that i try to fofull that role as an example "xeno vessel this is l the Liberty Navy ship Niagara Falls halt for inspection failure to comply wil lresult in us opening fire*they comply i board there ship they dont i act as needed if i cant board i scan* i know pirates are kos but i belive if there a pirate unelss we see them comit a crime or hear about it we shouldent fire (same ghoes for smugglers and such)
' Wrote:As for the outcast ship i was going around trying to make it hostile(it is a new char). Thx to hoodlum he saved me hours of gameplay.
MACK TRUCK was smuggling yes,but when i passed about 10 ship's LSF/SA and several non lawfull's just hanging out chatting(thats right no gun fire) I hear HALT! Not stop mack truck,not halt macktruck just HALT!
Now i am expected to know this was for me and not 1 of the other 10 ships within 5K of me?
I did dock at manhattin, i why should i not, just because 1 LSF yells MACKTRUCK is a smuggler. Prove it. stop me,and get the evidence. In no real court of law would someone who the police say is a smuggle would be put in jail with out physical evidence.
Nuff said close up this thread now.
I have the evidence, you critises others RP Halt when you are CD several timeds is obviosly you. We ere having an RP event when you passed thats why there was no firing. You docked on Manhattan after repeated requests to stop and under-fire from several lawfuls. Your RP rocks..
I remember killing you a few days ago in my Xeno and you were in a bomber, as sooon as its done you start breaking RP to whine about lag when the simple truth is you were in a poor bomber and flew it like a fat man on heroin dances.
I dont know about anyone else, i being an SA ALWAYS Rp in system, i call out my shots or if there is hostile, and yes we do have rights to shoot on sight and we do not just shoot without reason.
* HITS HEAD ON TABLE * ... This topic has come up many times ... and there have actually been characters sanctioned for non-RP attacks such as this. If you like, I'll dig em up and post the links ... but then again that won't solve anything. Here's a link I started and got slammed for because I brought up the same subject ... http://discoverygc.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=13201
' Wrote:I know this is about the SA/LSF, but hear the LPI side.
We are victims in this war between Outcasts, Hessians, Corsairs, various Rogues, Xenos, and Hackers and the SA/LSF.
We often get KoS by the aforementioned unlawfuls, all because we have lawful tags. For the record: Jim is level 39. A certain Rogue GB killed Jeff the other day because he had LPI tag/ID/in the name. This was AFTER he hired a merc to try and take me out. Not starting a flamewar here, but after the incident I spoke with the pilot of said GB. The conversation went like this:
He said that I should not have fired; I never scanned anyone's ID.
"What on earth are you talking about?"
He quotes rule 6.6 at me.
I go look it up. He is right about the scanning thing, but he never scanned mine either. He justifies it by telling me I have an LPI tag and it's in my name.
I said this was completely against what he had just said.
He brushed it off.
I was getting a bit mad, as can be understood. I had been twice engaged, once by a merc, who I began shooting at, and then he was joined by a gunboat who started to pummel me. The merc had left and was attacking SA by this time.
This is a long way of saying that the lawfuls have it hard too.
Ok ... I really didn't want to get into this ... but it seems we need to clarify a few things. LPI-Jeff was killed by my Black Pearl. I hired a merc to take on a few lawfuls for me. Jeff just happened to be the first target of opportunity. And the interesting thing is ... no sooner than Jeff was destroyed I start receiving spam messages from Jeff regarding, "when did you announce your attack on me?" Wow ... isn't this on topic. To which I replied, "when I said Bye Bye Jeff." I gave him a proper announcement of my attack (something I rarely see) ... but anyway. For a good 30 minutes I'm in conversation with Jeff regarding my role play and how I did something wrong. I had to go somewhere in open space to avoid being attacked by his buddies in order to clear my screen of his anger.
Now ... Jeff ... Boss ... whatever your name is ... you initiated the discussion regarding "rules" so don't go pointing your fingers at me sir ... I can go scan my directory for the screens of our conversation if you'd like.
During our conversation ... you challenged me because I showed "WHITE" on your radar. At this point I explained that you must go by a characters ID that is mounted on his ship ... NOT what color they show on your radar. You did not trust me on this and again challenged me. I then asked you if you wanted me to quote you the rule ... you did ... so I went to the forums and dug up Rule 6.6 which plainly states that you must scan for ID before attacking.
Please note ... I never said you could not attack me. My only argument was you cannot go by what color I show on your radar.
And sir ... I did scan you before I engaged your ship. And since you have the LPI "official faction" affiliation tag as part of your name ... um ... I'm pretty sure that makes you Liberty Police. I have no such faction affiliation ... but then my name "Black Pearl" kinda gives away that I'm not necessarily on your side.
Now ... whether you intended this to go to flames or not ... as I've read an admin in previous posts state that if you're gonna use "I don't want to start flames but ..." ... guess what ... you're starting flames.