Theres a lot of holes in there, the food thing for starters would require contact with either Synth or the Zoners and a dependancy on supplies to continue growing said food. Yet there is no mention of Core relying upon anyone for supplies or convoys, you even charge people to trade with you. The Nauru farming seems a stretch too as the Corsairs, who are desperate for food wouldn't abandon a planet's worth of farming so easily.
Your funded by the House Governments is a shakey thing too, Kusari is a puppet state for Gallia who I'm fairly certain doesn't even know of Core's existance, Rheinland is practically broke (As always), Bretonia is under siege leaving only Liberty but now they're under the squeeze of Gallia and forced to import everything to build their fleets. Not much cash left to fund a PMC, though I am curious who sells these weapons for you and how they get their shipments. I mean no disrespect but it sounds like cop-out to avoid any vunerabilities.
The Core's survival would make sense if it werent protrayed as a superstrong fighting force hellbent on domination, if the Core was more subversive and played the factions against each other I could understand. Forming a rift and occupying it as far more interesting then "everyone else was just too busy to notice us."
The technology thing I'm not even gonna touch, everyone and their dog can proclaim to have the most advanced tech so the point is moot (I've done it myself with OSC). The icing on the cake however is the bit about the Corsairs not having the power to defeat you, I mean we're talkiing about a pirate superpower here who has connections with an element in every single House in Sirius and is only kept at bay by an equally powerful Outcast nation. If the Core were allied with the Outcasts it would be believable but to say it can hold its own against an entity with that kind of pull is practically absurd.
The bottom line for me is that Core lacks character and true personality because it has no obvious flaws, very little visible dependencies and no shortcomings translated ingame. It may just be me who sees it this way but to really bring the faction to life you'd need to start showing weakness and vulnerability, contact someone to actually sell your weapons, tempt traders to bring you supplies and show the functioning of the Core.
I'd like to see Core get through this teething stage and develop into a solid faction but at the moment you're lumped into the Saturday Morning Cartoon Villian section as the chest beating yin to Gallia's mustache twiddling yang.
(05-16-2016, 08:40 PM)Croft Wrote: Theres a lot of holes in there, the food thing for starters would require contact with either Synth or the Zoners and a dependancy on supplies to continue growing said food. Yet there is no mention of Core relying upon anyone for supplies or convoys, you even charge people to trade with you. The Nauru farming seems a stretch too as the Corsairs, who are desperate for food wouldn't abandon a planet's worth of farming so easily.
If there was a Synth Foods faction around, I'd love to do stuff but rip. But surely Synth foods isn't the only source of food in Sirius? And Corsairs only look to the Zoners for food because of FP9's biodomes. Core has their own biodomes. I'm not sure why Corsairs haven't looked into getting their own biodomes though. We have this which we open up once in a blue moon when we're not poor only to have JM drain away all the money. It serves as a good way to document supplies though, and it's pretty fun for all parties involved.
And in regards to Nauru the Corsairs were abandoning it/Yaren - to focus on the Omega conflict, I believe (I don't think specific reasons are mentioned but they were abandoning it). Although to be honest maybe I'm thinking too forward and I'll probably confirm and better define Nauru's farming status in future once I've finished the planetary biography. BHG|Core used the Planet for some farming stuff, that I know at least.
(05-16-2016, 08:40 PM)Croft Wrote: Your funded by the House Governments is a shakey thing too, Kusari is a puppet state for Gallia who I'm fairly certain doesn't even know of Core's existance, Rheinland is practically broke (As always), Bretonia is under siege leaving only Liberty but now they're under the squeeze of Gallia and forced to import everything to build their fleets. Not much cash left to fund a PMC, though I am curious who sells these weapons for you and how they get their shipments. I mean no disrespect but it sounds like cop-out to avoid any vunerabilities.
Kusari aren't current funders of us due to the skeptism they have of The Core due to it's previous BHG origins. However Samura and Kishiro have helped supply us before in the past (and in regards to Samura we're looking at doing more stuff with them in future) and we have been at work improving relations with Kusari. Gallia has indeed heard of us and we have sent several comms to them. We are currently working on opening up diplomatic relations with them. Rheinland, Liberty and Bretonia - mainly their militaries and House intelligence - have given Core support such as ships and equipment as well as sustenance. Core has done a fair few contracts and convoys with Corporations within those respective Houses. Although bringing up the Gallic war is actually fairly interesting. Whilst none of our allies have adjusted support in accordance to that, I wonder if that may change in future. It'd be an interesting dynamic to play around with. The Core sells the weapons via AP Manufacturing and Alabama Shipyard.
(05-16-2016, 08:40 PM)Croft Wrote: The Core's survival would make sense if it werent protrayed as a superstrong fighting force hellbent on domination, if the Core was more subversive and played the factions against each other I could understand. Forming a rift and occupying it as far more interesting then "everyone else was just too busy to notice us."
I wouldn't mind doing that but tbh the system connections don't really allow for those sort of things. Omicrons are kind of built in a way where everyone will shoot at each other. Although I do intend to do that sort of thing outside of the Edge Worlds. Much like the Patriots from MGS, The Core profits off conflict. I did want to have Viper Munitions implemented so that we could start doing roleplay whereby we do discreetly play internal groups against each other by supplying both sides with munitions. Unfortunately, Xoria won't implement my commodities :/
(05-16-2016, 08:40 PM)Croft Wrote: The technology thing I'm not even gonna touch, everyone and their dog can proclaim to have the most advanced tech so the point is moot (I've done it myself with OSC). The icing on the cake however is the bit about the Corsairs not having the power to defeat you, I mean we're talkiing about a pirate superpower here who has connections with an element in every single House in Sirius and is only kept at bay by an equally powerful Outcast nation. If the Core were allied with the Outcasts it would be believable but to say it can hold its own against an entity with that kind of pull is practically absurd.
Nomad and AI technology is the top tier though. Core and Order are leagues ahead in researching and using that technology, and House intelligence groups are playing catchup. I didn't say Corsairs don't have the power to defeat us, but you have to acknowledge that they're also locked in their own conflicts across Sirius (Hessians, Coalition, Reapers of Sirius, Nomads (sort of I guess?), Order, Rheinland, Bretonia to name a few) and are more focused on the Omegas as well as destroying the Outcasts. Given the circumstances I think it's pretty logical that The Core can hold it's own against the Corsairs. And it's not like we're actively trying to push into their territories right now.
(05-16-2016, 08:40 PM)Croft Wrote: The bottom line for me is that Core lacks character and true personality because it has no obvious flaws, very little visible dependencies and no shortcomings translated ingame. It may just be me who sees it this way but to really bring the faction to life you'd need to start showing weakness and vulnerability, contact someone to actually sell your weapons, tempt traders to bring you supplies and show the functioning of the Core.
I'd like to see Core get through this teething stage and develop into a solid faction but at the moment you're lumped into the Saturday Morning Cartoon Villian section as the chest beating yin to Gallia's mustache twiddling yang.
I really wanted to take all the commodites I suggested and start establishing third party sellers for the specific wares. I wanted to do things like RP to get AP Manufacturing stores opened upon stations and planets, selling each kind of good. In light of the Delta drama it'd be cool if people were inRP looting and desecrating the stores due to The Core's stanace on Zoners. But alas as stated Xoria didn't want to implement them and we're left with extremely vauge (a mistake on my part) 'APM Advanced Hardware'. In regards to other economic issues the Omicrons have relatively little to trade that is interesting or profitable. I want to see about buffing some commodites and trying to establish some routs to pull traders in, and hopefully Iridium mining should do a good job at encouraging that. I think a big issue that a lot - if not all - of Disco's newly added 'Disco factions' is that they don't really integrate into the mod beyond their own ZoI, and therefore don't contribute to a living, breathing universe. I've tried to remedy that with Core as much as I can, but there's only so much a faction leader can do. Core's depencies and weaknesses lie in their ability to sell their goods to the Houses. In the upcoming Kusari Civil War it'll be extremely detrimental to them in Kusari if a Blood Dragon government rises to the throne.
I've had a look at the APM Hardware for routes with my arms dealer and it is quite limited in sellpoints, Research bases offer the best prices if memory serves which is fitting for your RP if not problematic for smugglers. Especially ones playing by the book and dont know about the secret research facilities.
Splitting the commodity up probably wouldn't help much, you'd only need to diversify who you sell it to in order to make it attractive or failing that, getting the various government to actively seek deliveries of Hardware (you'd probably have an easier time swimming in dried cement). Or even the militaries/intel agencies. Beyond that I think you'd probably need to sacrifice a House contact for more varied blackmarket connections.
Come on, Core was always like that. Nothing really changed through years - bored of tiresome but fair BHGing created a relax faction with sole purpose of having careless pews with order\noms and sairs using heavy hardware. Nothing evolved since then actually and hardly can since it would requier to rewrite the whole thing from the scratch, concept including.