I don't really see what's the problem here. Can somebody tell me? Well, from my perspectives, I don't see why Vagrants shouldn't be official. I still find confusing why Erato doesn't speaks for himself, maybe because he simply doesn't cares.
And before you read any further, let's not get ***...'JUDAS' (!!!1!1!!1!)...*** here.
To get it straight. What can I say about comparing K'Haras to Vagrants? Well... It's a long call.
K'Haras had a long history. They started as Keepers and they were the legends for some of those who didn't even managed to encounter them. They were reformed into K'Haras, lore was changed for multiple times, so as faction leaders and the membership. I was unlucky enough to be not a part of the Keepers, but alas, I managed to be a part of the faction for the whole year (actually, about 10-11 months) and... Well, both me and Huggie know that there was a K'Hara member called Winter. He was a hella guy and now, I think in some point he was right. He told me some great stuff about K'Haras, taught me a bit of how to be a nomad, basically dragged me into that swamp... But it wasn't only his word that I was building my opinion on, nah. I was around here since .86 and... Well, K'Haras from .86 or maybe even .87 and present K'Haras are quite different. Back in those days, I could expect more roleplaying, interactions, possibilities... Even going to Omicron Zeta was trembling, because I could always expect at least two or three K'Haras to log. Things were more interesting. And... Nowadays. Let's have an example. Two Vagrants were having a talk with the Commune guy in Delta. Then we saw Nyx who just uncloaked, dropped one message and was spectating, sitting in front of us doing literally nothing. So... Pardon my language, but you're literally barking at people that want to have fun in their own way, when this way doesn't crosses the rules, when your own members only get ships to shoot people. You blame us for the will to have fun in our way? Well, sorry, it's the community where the democracy rules. Before pointing fingers at other factions, I suggest to fix your own. You know which problems does exactly your faction(s) has.
Now, let's talk about Vagrants. Personally, I don't see any conflicts between Vagrants' and Slomon K'Hara's Lores. Let's remember where it all started. K'Haras were the ones that were left in Sirius, EE in Houses, Omicron Kappa, 90, 99 Iota and etc. And Vagrants were those who went beyond the hypergate in the Dyson Sphere. Is there any conflicts? No. All I see is a solid writeup, lots of good roleplay and interesting interactions which I definitely wouldn't call a waste of time. What else do they have? Entity profiles? Evolution system? Trial system? Message dump? The confluence? Hell, they even had a unique speech! Everything was written in quite extraordinary style, I have to admitt (except for Kessereya's and Electra's profiles and MDs, they suck). How can you be mad about something like this?
Hey. Are we what? Getting serious in flood? It's not 2k16 anymore.
(and don't you DARN SAY that line I just put up... unlike all you wanting to be recognized with out-of-subject poor-RP'd characters that go in circles every time they have a clue of what's going on.)
(02-14-2017, 03:17 AM)Operator Wrote: I still find confusing why Erato doesn't speaks for himself, maybe because he simply doesn't cares.
Not sure if this is my place either but there are exams that are more important than arguing here.
And sometimes arguing with people can get really exhausting as well.
I actually spoke to Huggie with some ideas about how things can work out between the two and plan to do the same with Erato when he wakes up and has the time to review what was discussed.
Quote:I still find confusing why Erato doesn't speaks for himself, maybe because he simply doesn't cares.
You know, that video was posted last evening and is two hours long. Now I was listening to it while powertrading, while Foxglove has, you know, things in real life to do. This is a game, and RL has way more priority than a stupid argument in the flood section with someone who can't work out his own issues first but rahter searches for cheap excuses to blame other people (what is something which is not rare in this community).
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