Red Hessian Army feedback

[Enkidu]

Please don't engage with a cruiser whilst we're pirating IMG. IMG will just give us increasingly lower "offers" if some Hessian rocks up and breaks the piracy operation midway through, because the piracy threat is impossible to enforce if the fight can't finish up.. I know you wanted a cruiser fight - that's fine. Wait until after the convoy attack is finished. A couple of snubs plus one cruiser is just about enough to raid a convoy of that size, ran by the most co-ordinated convoy faction on the server.

We had a ridiculous situation wherin a half drained UN cruiser was being attacked by a police bomber and a Hessian cruiser at the same time. We messaged the cruiser repeatedly, so I have no idea why he went in there.

Can we make sure that doesn't happen in the future? We deliberately don't engage you mid-fight with RM and let you finish first. Please do the same for us - piracy is dangerous at the best of times. It's impossible if you pull moves like that.

[Wesker]

Please don't engage with a cruiser whilst we're pirating IMG. IMG will just give us increasingly lower "offers" if some Hessian rocks up and breaks the piracy operation midway through, because the piracy threat is impossible to enforce if the fight can't finish up.. I know you wanted a cruiser fight - that's fine. Wait until after the convoy attack is finished. A couple of snubs plus one cruiser is just about enough to raid a convoy of that size, ran by the most co-ordinated convoy faction on the server.

We had a ridiculous situation wherin a half drained UN cruiser was being attacked by a police bomber and a Hessian cruiser at the same time. We messaged the cruiser repeatedly, so I have no idea why he went in there.

Can we make sure that doesn't happen in the future? We deliberately don't engage you mid-fight with RM and let you finish first. Please do the same for us - piracy is dangerous at the best of times. It's impossible if you pull moves like that.

I talked to you about this on skype, I hope everythings resolved, if not and you want me to sum up the interaction here then let me know.

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[Enkidu]

Weskerings

I talked to you about this on skype, I hope everythings resolved, if not and you want me to sum up the interaction here then let me know.
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All resolved - thank you for the prompt response!

[Enkidu]

> Complains about ganks during 1v1s.

> Interrupts a 1v1 with a gank.

If you can't walk the walk, don't talk the talk. Next time we'll just eyeball numbers instead of trying to be optimal. As far as I'm concerned all feedback from RHA on this subject is pretty much mute, now.

[Wesker]

> Complains about ganks during 1v1s.

> Interrupts a 1v1 with a gank.

If you can't walk the walk, don't talk the talk. Next time we'll just eyeball numbers instead of trying to be optimal. As far as I'm concerned all feedback from RHA on this subject is pretty much mute, now.

Read the discord logs I posted, I specifically said I didn't care about the gank, I was only upset at the use of missiles. Here's that double standard again, where whenever you lose a fight in the same way you dish out fights you complain like it's the end of the world. For the record, we had less numbers than you, 3-4, as you said on discord, having 1 more than the opposing side isn't really a gank, but now it is?

Not only that, but didn't you tell me in the MRG chat you were beyond complaining in feedback threads? Well so much for that thought. This is really REALLY starting to get on my nerves, I can't fight you even with less numbers without you complaining. First a vidar and a jorm against 5 dessies in Koeln which (somehow?) warranted a complaint from you about ganking? Are you serious?

If you wan't me to be mute, if you want me to bring missiles, if you want me to unleash the hordes of jormungands and vidars, I'm more than willing to. You think you "rolling your eyes at numbers and throwing more" is really anything to be scared of? Don't come in here and threaten me like your suddenly the big man when in reality you're just incapable of getting over yourself after every fight you lose so you need to complain about it. Sure I get upset when I lose, but I don't visit the faction's feedback thread in every scenario.

Take a break, actually READ the discord logs and the logs from conversation in the MRG chat we had, then come back here and call me a scumbag.

[Wesker]

I don't need to, because I win either way, if you want to meme please do it in my pm. (no angry voice intended for you danny)

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[Enkidu]

Your attitude towards missiles is ridiculous. It takes one press of a key to defeat a missile, and you're one of the best PvPers on this server. Unfortunately, you also shieldrun obsessively and missiles are required to take you out whenever you get into a fight you don't like.

I'm just fed up of these silly arguments. Next time I'm just going to worry less. We're still going to encounter you, play with you, try to have a good time for both sides, but I'm not going to take any critique more seriously than I have to from RHA, if RHA doesn't play according to what RHA itself says.

"Winning" is irrelevant. If I wanted to "win", I'd drop a solaris cruiser on you.

Think about that. Consider that the reason why most of Unioners pack sidewinders in their aux weapons slot is because we are used to RHA shieldrunning over and over again. That's the reason why we have these extremely expensive weapons mounted in the first place.

Again, fight by your own rules, or shut up.

Edit: I also never called you a scumbag and I like you personally. Just dial your competitiveness down 90 notches.

[Wesker]

Your attitude towards missiles is ridiculous. It takes one press of a key to defeat a missile, and you're one of the best PvPers on this server. Unfortunately, you also shieldrun obsessively and missiles are required to take you out whenever you get into a fight you don't like.

Think about that. Consider that the reason why most of Unioners pack sidewinders in their aux weapons slot is because we are used to RHA shieldrunning over and over again. That's the reason why we have these extremely expensive weapons mounted in the first place.

Again, fight by your own rules, or shut up.

I hate to burst your bubble here, but the way every group snub fight on this server goes is that the person targetted by the enemy team sheild runs so his team has time to take down their target and move on, and vice versa. RHA fights on snubs no different than any other faction, its how snub fights have gone since before you and I touched this server. Don't go ahead and say "oh well you sheildrun so we have to do it". Back when I started leading RHA, no one ever complained about one person from the other side sheildrunning in a fight, and neither did I, if I ever did, I was just told to take it with a grain of salt. I didn't complain and start telling everyone to use missiles, or went complaining back and forth in the TBH feedback thread about sheildrunning centurions clinging to missiles to win pvp, I practiced so I'd never find myself in that position again. If you think sheildrunning odins and sabres are bad, I'd love to see you in my shoes fighting sheildrunning centurions.

I'm just fed up of these silly arguments. Next time I'm just going to worry less. We're still going to encounter you, play with you, try to have a good time for both sides, but I'm not going to take any critique more seriously than I have to from RHA, if RHA doesn't play according to what RHA itself says.
"Winning" is irrelevant. If I wanted to "win", I'd drop a solaris cruiser on you.
Edit: I also never called you a scumbag and I like you personally. Just dial your competitiveness down 90 notches.

What does RHA itself say? Are you going to pull a "you aren't what the hessians are in my pov"?

If winning is so irrelevant to you than why are you here again? To just hypocritically call me a ganking scumbag (even when we had less numbers and might I point out how you've ignored all my points on you being over feedback threads and the double standard mentality xddddd)? If I don't win a fight and I get ganked, I don't spend time in the other faction's feedback, especially in every scenario. You're angry you lost, or you're angry the fight didn't "go the way you wanted", and now you're here taking it out on either me personally or the faction, or both. If winning is really irrelevant to the reason you're arguing, there's no reason you should be here complaining period. So I'll say again, take a look at the discord logs and the MRG chat logs we had, take a break then come back here.

[Wesker]

Edit: I also never called you a scumbag and I like you personally. Just dial your competitiveness down 90 notches.

What do you mean? Start going easy on you? Stop sheildrunning in group fights? Stop, well... uh... bringing snubs alone when you have caps support as well? I'm not exactly taking every necessary precaution to beat you when I log to fight you.

[Enkidu]

No. You are exactly what I think Hessians should be, I love RHA. I just think this argument is silly and todderesque.

I like missiles, I don't force people to use missiles, but some Unioners use missiles. Please attempt to counter them using any one of the five counters for missiles in the game. If you want them removed, write lots of PMs to Haste. I will continue to use something that is part of the game and not an exploit, as I do not have the money to afford a great PC in order to aim fast enough to take out shield running stubs.

I want us to get to the point where Hessians don't complain if Unioners have pre-logged a gunboat, you fly into a fight against a gunboat, and a gunboat opens fire on you if you get under 1k, or Wesker complains because nobody can hit him, so we take his shield out and fire CDs, then sidewinders once his CMs are low.

Because by that reasoning I could complain about RHA having higher skilled members, winning every fight, chasing us through every system in RHA's ZOI, ect. But I won't, because I want us to keep having fun - us, in this situation, meaning both RHA, and UN, two very good factions who are keeping Rheinland alive.