Where do Xenos get money?

[bluntpencil2001]

We Xenos are funded by a large grassroots support among the working class of Liberty. We also support ourselves by raiding trade convoys for essential supplies, while we destroy what we don't need. As to us wanting to take the Cardamine trade, that's a common misconception. We want to drive the junkers away from the trade not to take it over, but to stop it altogether. Cardamine is a major corrupting influence in Liberty, and we're opposed to it. We also oppose the Junkers for their role in the Slave Trade. It is true that we make some credits from the Synthetic Marajuana trade, but it's not anywhere near as bad as Cardamine.

Funny that the Xenos in the bars keep telling me that they want to muscle in on the Cardamine trade then, eh?

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[Yngen]

Everyone who says they want to see the Xenos lose their Eagles should try being a Xeno before saying that.

Discovery is designed from the VHF up. Weapon rebalancing, everything Discovery members have been working on for years, begins at weapon class 8. Flying anything less than a VHF (mk2 LFs and HFs excluded,) means you can only engage ships of similar class realistically. So other than the 2 or 3 Lane hackers, Rogues and LPI flying around in Stillettos, Wolfhounds and Patriots stoically, there would be nothing for a Xeno in a hawk or starblazer to engage. No, the only appeal a Hawk driving xeno character would have for me is if I were allowed to blow up low level players. I would love to force these people to roll play (role play or DIE!) But the server rules say life starts at level 40 with your ID, everything that happens before lvl 40 is irrelevant.

Role play has to give way to practicality eventually, and for me it gives way at the VHF. I won't fly anything less.

As for Xeno bombers, I wouldn't mind seeing them go. Make the Xeno ID exclude bombers is something I've always supported. The only possible argument for Xeno bombers would be for independent Xenos trying to take traders down. Have you ever tried to take a Transport shield down in an Eagle with Xeno guns by yourself? Its possible, but by the time you get the shield down twice with the guys bats and plow through all 400 or so of his nanobots the guy has thrusted his way to a dock somewhere. Since I'm typically flying with 2 or 3 of my mates it doesn't matter so much to me. There's also the bazillion independent Bounty Hunter Cruisers floating around Colorado and Kepler...and Packs of Liberty Cruisers to contend with...

Xenos can get their firepower from numbers rather than bombers-but don't try to use this argument to put us all in Hawks because its been tried. 3 of us in Hawks and a Starblazer took on one Guardian with a lvl 10 shield and we couldn't get it down.

So Xenos are poor, but not that poor. Be happy we don't fly around in Cruisers.

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[Walker]

actually Yngen, Ive taken a few Eagles in a Drake... Its possible.

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[gezza999]

Sorry... That's like asking the Rogues to delete their characters after a while because they're so poorly organised and careless that they wouldn't survive for long.

Just because the majority of them fly bad ships, doesn't mean ALL of them do, if you want to fly a Xeno Starflier with full Xeno guns, feel free to, try taking on a Cruiser with it too, or a Gunboat with full Missile turrets, I'll stick to my Taiidan, my Supernova, my Mini Razor, my 4 Black Widows guns, my Enhanced Countermeasure dropper, my Enhanced Thruster, my Nuclear Mine Dropper, and my Class 10 Graviton Shield, ok?

Liberty has enough Capital ships to start a small firepower renting business, 10 million per Battleship may be a good rate to consider, if someone wants to organise that, so, Bomber support is kind of -REQUIRED-, and if you consider Dual Razors as a viable option to take down a few Battlecruisers, or an absolutly massive StarBlazer squad... well, do I need to say much about that?

@ Walker: How many guns did your Drake have?:P:rolleyes:

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[Walker]

Haha, It had 4.
Like all Light Fighters.

It is infact possible to beat VHF's with one due to its increased maneuverability. And semi-adequate weapons. I do believe it can also hold a Lancer Missile, which is rather cheap and powerful. You should look it up; Its been done before.

Though when it comes to Lights, the Liberator beats them all.

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Tiberius Walker, putting flames out and being awesome since Apr 13 2008 ™
[8/17/2008 5:56:46 PM] Aaron (Boss/Jurgen) says: Can't bring myself to say it... Looks like you get the LABC, I've seen what you can do in one
Walker (Albert Wint): I can has win? --- Epyon the Bored: You can haz win. --- [1:18:00 PM] Chris (Niezck) says: I love you <3
[5:55:53 PM] Raisu says: Walker pwned both Battleships(LNS-Texas LNS-Arizona) - [5:55:57 PM] Raisu says: in a cruiser
Tiberius Walker, spreading mayhem, destruction, and Spamming Flood since Oct 22 2008 ™
[9:08:25 AM] Gurjiv (Frozen) says: I hope someone gives you AIDs.
[7:15:17 PM] Dylan (Ximen) says: Walker... you have no idea how much fail you bring into this world...
[8:05:08 AM] Ross (SevereTrinity) says: Screw you for making me install FL again
[10:51IE AM] Epyon the Bored says: My god if I ever meet you I am going to strangle you.
Tiberius Walker, being better then you since April 30, 2009 ™
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[Zeltak]

Sorry... That's like asking the Rogues to delete their characters after a while because they're so poorly organised and careless that they wouldn't survive for long.

Just because the majority of them fly bad ships, doesn't mean ALL of them do, if you want to fly a Xeno Starflier with full Xeno guns, feel free to, try taking on a Cruiser with it too, or a Gunboat with full Missile turrets, I'll stick to my Taiidan, my Supernova, my Mini Razor, my 4 Black Widows guns, my Enhanced Countermeasure dropper, my Enhanced Thruster, my Nuclear Mine Dropper, and my Class 10 Graviton Shield, ok?

Liberty has enough Capital ships to start a small firepower renting business, 10 million per Battleship may be a good rate to consider, if someone wants to organise that, so, Bomber support is kind of -REQUIRED-, and if you consider Dual Razors as a viable option to take down a few Battlecruisers, or an absolutly massive StarBlazer squad... well, do I need to say much about that?

/Signed

[jammi]

3 of us in Hawks and a Starblazer took on one Guardian with a lvl 10 shield and we couldn't get it down.

Back when the Colorado Blazers still existed (my wing of indies before the XA was formed) me and my three wingmen (all in blazers) stumbled across a convoy of a Armoured transport and a Ravens Talon. We beat them pretty bad. It is possible, and it has been done.

Also, I'm in favour of Xenos in bombers, I mean the amount of crap that comes out when we log on, I mean it's ridiculous. That being said I don't have a Xeno bomber, or a VHF. So far I have only have one XA tagged ship and it's a Blazer despite me being one of the clans founders. I also have a indy Crow that I haven't got round to upgrading to the XA yet, but it never comes out to play any more. The Blazer is fun purely for the RP and the irritation factor.

As for the under lvl players, you'll find they have quite an itchy trigger finger. The Colorado miners in CSVs for example. When I find one I'll scan him and find say, three Xeno pilots and 100 units of silver. I'll tell him to drop the pilots even if there's nothing I can do about it. Usually they'll drop it out if intimidation because they don't know the rules then I'll leave and let them be. If they don't drop the pilot I'll circle them and usually they panic and open fire. I wait for my hull to damage before nukin' them in self defence and refusing to return my buddies. Still if they ignore me I'll just fly off:P


And back to original topic: We get our money from supporters in the public, i.e. civilians on Houston and Denver (fairly poor so they won't donate too much) and a few wealthy Manhattan supporters. We also get 'donations' from Universal shipping to ensure we don't target their ships and keep up the pressure on foreigners. We also maintain (maintain being replacing the duct tape occasional) a small fleet of Freighters- Dromedray's, Rhino's or whatever which accompany raiding parties (in the XA anyway) which pick up stolen goods and sell them to the Zoners.

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[Laowai]

Yep - My Xeno Character's RP for funding is he is independently financed by a few means...

Firstly he wrote a book, which has sold a lot, even though it was banned... he also has friends who support him, donate to the "cause" as it were.....

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