Red Hessian Army feedback

[Enkidu]

You're saying that if you don't agree with something you're not going to engage with it, and instead you're going to brigade it instead of giving a response. I've spent half my bank making hessian ships including a cruiser. I an willing to believe in you. Don't toss me aside for wanting to talk about the dynamics of an R lawful and an R unlawful working together shake out.

Let's talk at some point. We don't need to do this cringe-culture repeating meme thing. My views are my own, not anybody elses. I'm not brigading or talking behind anybody's back. I am, presently, irritated that you decided to publically shame me rather than just have a chat.

If you truly believed in the Volksrevolution, you'd have spent all your bank on our ships.

No, you don't get to fly your 60-restocks-per-minute cau5 SHF boasting about shooting at us and then once you finally get whats coming to you - enter our VC and immediately start to complain. I will not tolerate that at all, I have not tolerated people coming into VC to complain about issues mid fight, in part because they died as a result and are obviously just baiting a debate.

I have just spoken with some people in BAF|and it seems they do not share your concern, an NAP was called for the duration of this drama. We need to group up to coordinate since we're almost always outgunned and out numbered in this conflict. It's done for coordination purposes, so far, it's helped in brewing these massive fights that up until now it seems no one has had a problem with.

So yes, I've got my hands full with pulling these fights out of our ass every day. Everyone has been kudosing and obviously wants to take part in. You are the only one making this complaint. It pissed me off and still is, my patience for this is all but none.

Time to off some stress now, take this reply as you will.

I didn't die in the fight. I don't care about dying in fights. I enjoyed the fight that I was in. I've enjoyed all the fights in Omega 3.


My concerns do not speak for anyone else. I do not speak for BAF. I am not in BAF.


My ship is just a ship. I'm using it because I like the character. Any comment I made about the power of the ship was an ironic one. The ship was made long before SHFs were effective in combat. I am also on BAF indies, but as you don't know the name of my indie VHFs, you don't know when I'm on them. It's not what you think it is, even by a long stretch.


I'm just raising a point. I'm angry with you now because you decided to go thermonuclear on me because I happened to be the one guy with the one question. You could have cleared it up by saying this personally or in any other forum. Instead, we've both mad at each other.

Drama is so boring. But I'm not the kind of guy to drop something if somebody trolls me in front of a whole bunch of people I enjoy playing with. I'll raise the question over and over until I get a civil answer like the one you gave above. It's not 'complaining', it's wanting to feel that everything is going right. I have zero complaints about the quality of the PVP.

Thank you for replying with decency and respect. You'd do well to unblock me on discord as I will have storyline event materials to sort out with you in the coming days.

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[Loken]

You're right. Restocking your ship 30 times and then leaving the system and blowing yourself up when all the bases are being watched sounds exactly like the actions of someone that doesn't care about dying in fights.

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[Enkidu]

You're right. Restocking your ship 30 times and then leaving the system and blowing yourself up when all the bases are being watched sounds exactly like the actions of someone that doesn't care about dying in fights.

I didn't blow myself up, I rammed a planet by accident. I was forced to AFK because a sick relative of mine with a non-functional diaphragm recovering from major invasive surgery gave me a phone call. -_- Discovery is not the most important thing in this world.


I restocked my ship because I was out of missiles and CDs, and I also had to change between Train CDs, missiles, and scorchers, depending upon the combatants involved. I wanted to get more cloak batteries so I could move around the battlefield between the caps. I was there to kill bombers as the Bretonians weren't doing very well at it.

There arn't any OORP motivations. You could make a spatial and come and kill me, or used some good teamwork, which you did. I came because I was called.

I like RHA. Look up-thread and you'll see me kudosing the faction.

I just wanted to voice a misgiving that was pertinent to a chat environment with both ALG and Hessian leads in it. Instead I got trolled.

Man, we're just all players at the end of the day.

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[Grumblesaur]

I'm just raising a point. I'm angry with you now because you decided to go thermonuclear on me because I happened to be the one guy with the one question. You could have cleared it up by saying this personally or in any other forum. Instead, we've both mad at each other.

"Stop grouping with Hessians" isn't exactly a question. If you think there's a breach of the rules with regard to them grouping together, wouldn't it be wiser to report it rather than storming into a feedback thread with a sarcastic kudos and an axe to grind?

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[Enkidu]

"Stop grouping with Hessians" isn't exactly a question. If you think there's a breach of the rules, wouldn't it be wiser to report it rather than storming into a feedback thread with a sarcastic kudos and an axe to grind?

I'm not storming here at all. I didn't give a sarcastic Kudos. There isn't a sarcastic kudos anywhere.

I don't have an axe to grind. I had a concern I wanted to raise - that's not worthy of a report, reports are last resort tools. The feedback is about that I was cut off and actively shut down before I could say anything in a non-public channel. Then there was a conspicuous attempt to rattle me here which had to be moderated down.

We can just be nice to one another. : 3

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[Grumblesaur]

I didn't give a sarcastic Kudos. There isn't a sarcastic kudos anywhere.

Oh, that's my bad. Saw your post from a month ago at the head of this discussion and thought it was related.

Carry on.

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A way a lone a last a loved a long the riverrun, past Eve and Adam's, from swerve of shore to bend of bay,
brings us by a commodius vicus of recirculation back to Howth Castle and Environs.

[SnakThree]

Looking purely at rules, neither ALG nor Hessians can group up together in-game. But at the same time I hope current staff would not sanction these players due to it being logical choice considering RP setting taking place.

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[Enkidu]

Sorry if I'm being a bit of an agoniser.


IRL is stressfull and I'm tearing my hair out trying to get things done.

I'd like to set up some proper pews with Hessians and maybe some time in conn together for UN and RHA guys. Let me know what works for you.

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[Wesker]

I'll take this here then.

You're well aware that infocard was changed. The original Hel infocard is still knocking about on one of the pre 2013 disco versions.

It does not rule out the notion that we still can produce and maintain them. It also does not rule out the notion that it was not entirely your design in sync with the LWB (who by the way are also our allies which you decided to take for yourself by shoving them into your own lore.)

Sure. Let me run it down:
1) Only unlawful group to capture an entire vanilla house system.

Yes, Dresden, a system that totally isn't useless strategically or resourcefully to it's respective house government. It's totally NOT like they decided to pull out at the same time we decided to push. I won't deny that we would have taken it eventually anyways, but Dresden being overtaken is not the same as other house systems. The same logic could be applied to colonge at this point.

2) One of only three unlawful groups to keep your guard system, with the bare minimum of de-guarding applied.

Chugoku, Vespucci, Champagne, Omicron Xi, Omicron Phi, Omicron Sigma. No, I'm not going to apologize for having a system with two bases that are basically there for gameplay purposes (restart base/cap sellpoint).

3) Unlawful group that stretches across the entire omegas is also the most powerful Rheinland unlawful group.

Oh yea, Omega-5,47,2,54 constitute the entirety of the Omegas. I agree. We were established as the largest Rheinland Unlawful presence from the beginning, our faction and lore have only continued to grow on that basis.

4) ZOI increased over time to include swathes of Bretonia.

Poole and Cambridge. Right. I mean technically it should be since they are supposed to be losing. But then again...

5) Official faction which used to have the best tech access in the game, for a very long time. Still holds a large number of ships from that time.

I'm just going to laugh at the fact that you think the sabre, falchion, and odin are the best. You are no snub pvper, especially if I can waste you while you're flying a dedicated dueling ship and I'm flying a nerfed groupfighter who's response can barely keep pace with its own turn rate. Right.

The Vidar? The cruiser the size of a BC? The jorm is pretty good too... for siegeing bases.

6) The hessians can do everything by themselves. They don't have anything they specifically lack. Every other unlawful faction - including Hispania, has that lore ballance. The Hessians have anything they could wish for an organisation of their size.

Oh no, our network of allies, some of which we have stolen from you in the process OF ASKING HELP FROM are just glorified antiques and we do everything ourselves. You're right.

7) The Hessians controlled the primary unlawful smuggling export trade in Rheinland for years until I asked for military salvage to be put in to impose some kind of ballance. The Blood diamond trade is still rife over other Rheinland unlawful's infocards.

A garbage commodity with a garbage sellprice being used as an argumentative basis to rip on my faction controlling all trade in the house. Ok. I don't think we've ever cared about underworld econ in Rheinland because we have our own.

8) The Hessians got an all-swallowing alliance chain that makes it difficult to do anything differently as a left-wing group.

6) The hessians can do everything by themselves.

8) The Hessians got an all-swallowing alliance chain that makes it difficult to do anything differently as a left-wing group.

6) The hessians can do everything by themselves.

8) The Hessians got an all-swallowing alliance chain that makes it difficult to do anything differently as a left-wing group.

6) The hessians can do everything by themselves.

8) The Hessians got an all-swallowing alliance chain that makes it difficult to do anything differently as a left-wing group.

6) The hessians can do everything by themselves.

8) The Hessians got an all-swallowing alliance chain that makes it difficult to do anything differently as a left-wing group.

6) The hessians can do everything by themselves.

9) Unlawful group that has never lost a base in a star system.

Freital and Omega-11 would like to disagree with you.

10) The Hessians play like an unstoppable army of orcs. You're not this. You're a large pirate organisation.

The Red Hessians (Die Roten Hessen) are a large organised group comprised mostly of disillusioned miners and political dissidents (as well as anyone else who is out of favour with the Rheinland government), who are dedicated to the elimination of the corporations Daumann and Kruger, the takeover of the Dresden system, and eventually the Rheinland government itself.

While the typical Red Hessian has the reputation of a pirate or brigand with nothing but personal gain in mind, the leaders of the Red Hessian Army have not lost sight of their goals: resisting the corporate oppression of Daumann and Kruger, implementing Hessian views on society and government, establishing a recognisable presence in the Omega sector and finally freeing Rheinland from the choking grip of its deceitful government.

But the challenges faced are far greater than just that. These same leaders constantly struggle to keep in line a sense of wrath and retribution, where former miners and exiled criminals alike fight hand in hand against their common foes, coached further by the prevalent revolutionary propaganda and the deadly realities of the deeper Omega systems, to hate their enemies with a unique kind of passion. While the Red Hessian Army still fights for a seemingly good cause, the methods in their employ can only be described as terrifying.

I am sick of this. Remember this before you throw around ridiculous accusations.

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[Enkidu]

*sigh*

Sorry if I'm being a bit of an agoniser.


IRL is stressfull and I'm tearing my hair out trying to get things done.

I'd like to set up some proper pews with Hessians and maybe some time in conn together for UN and RHA guys. Let me know what works for you.

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