Roleplay

[Lightfoot]

OK. Chinese Fire Drill

Eveyone, take off yer ID tags, throw 'em in a Trick Top Hat, and draw again.

I haven't been spanked yet for offering Eris' Holy Umrella to All Factions... (part of her role, balancing the Chao... see "Eris Wants You!" in faction forum.)

..But, I'm sure some stalwart will make a point that "I saw Eris_Ascendant in Liberty (or Kusari, or Dragon, or RM) space with a Corsair ID... Wah!"

"You can fool all of the people some of the time. You can fool some of the people all of the time. But you can't fool Mother Eris!"

23 Skidoo!
Mal-666

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<span style="font-family:Trebuchet Ms">Brotherhood of Light ~ Grenoble ~ Belfast



LVX|Cagliostro ~ LVX|Eye.of.Privas</span>

[Fellow Hoodlum]

While we seem to on the subject of IDs ... Light, at least you got one. There are a lot of
high ranked players on now, still carrying the freelancer one ... Mmm ... Server rules.

Hoodlum

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Some say he is a proud member of: "The most paranoid group of people in the Community."

[Dab]

Hoodlum, this is nothing about territory. As Dane himself said, WA and AW are separate. This was to give the Reservists a real reason to be here, other than to support the AW. They now have something to do here, as well as we now have a Kusari faction. THAT was the main reason behind this.

Also, of course I try to make AW look good, should I make it look bad? And if you have noticed, you and a few others are the only ones with problems towards AW. Most people are okay with us. Have respect for us. You have only one thing in your mind when AW and WA comes up. And that is to insult, harass, and badger us.

Hoodlum, you have no idea who Dane is, you don't know him. You only know where he came from. Which supports my guess that you don't have a problem just with me or Dane, you just don't like WA being here. You assume just because people hate us, there is a reason. Well we are a clan of a few hundred, of course we will have people hating us. Every large/semi-large clan does.

You are also trying to make me look bad not only to Discovery, who a few members of have already told you to cut it out, and that your acting like an ass., but to my own clan as well. And you are failing more miserably than I have on anything.

Grow up and gain some maturity Hoodlum.


@Badger. Even if the WA tag was not used, people hating WA will come after us. Even when we used the AW tag only, we had people after us. We won't be breaking off from WA. Also, its not WA's fault that WA-haters (for lack of a better term) come and harass us and the server. The only way to stop it is for AW to leave the server, which is definitely not happening. But I feel confident that we can handle those "WA-haters" and their lack of RP. :P

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[Kane]

The way I see it, this started out as a compliment on the Dane's RP thing. How in the heck did this turn into a flameing thread?

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This is the real true story of rock and roll; it was not about anything more then, how to live your life, as a gangster, in sartorial splendor, and turning the world into a place where normality would never return again...- Malcolm McLaren

[Dab]

Because Hoodlum can't get past his belief that WA is about conquest and territory only, which is completely absurd.

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[Kane]

Hoodlum did nothing here. The last post he made, before this went to hell, is...

One thing I did forget to mention ... For all of my previous vocal discontent with the way
that the AW was run here, the one thing they now do, is not use loopholes in the server
rules, to use of out class weapons on ships, even though the rules actually say nothing
about this.
I would like to see the rather convoluted way ships are allowed, now to be sorted in a
good RP way aswell. Looking forward to reading about those explainations.
I also note, and correct me if I'm wrong here, that the AW seem to have a new commander.
Wise choice ... In the light of the previous ones, lack of communication skills.

Hoodlum

A simple statement. To clarify, he says they acted with honor in outfitting their ships, if the actual ships allowed are up for grabs. Also, he thought that the AW and the WA (Now taking over Kusari), were combining. And The Dane responds...

With the Emperor frozen, and out of the picture, the AW's feel no special loyalty towards Skaldi Kin-Slayer, and therefore are going to remain a Seperate faction from WA. They will likely supply Mercs for all sides of the WA Civil war, but would lean the most towards House Cammander (Their kin).

In short, Dab still runs the AW, and without the Emperor, they are a seperate faction.

A quite simple correction, no? So, Hoodlum acknowledges the statement, and...

Sorry Mech, I read it as ... House Cammander, under the command of Darkwulf.
Have to re-read the thing again. Doesn't change my view though.

Hoodlum

What view? The one that the AW's leader has had communication problems (Don't ask me where he got this, I don't know). A little jab, easily ignored or shrugged off. However, this is the point where it starts to go downhill...

Yes well, as far as you are concerned I'm just a "smarter version of dab", in your own words. So forgive me if I don't take much stock in your view.


Anyways, I am dead..or Frozen. My part is done here, good luck AW's and WA's.
Farewell.

And so on... You all can read the rest. Hoodlum makes a small jab, and things fall apart. Everyone knows that he dosn't like you, or the AW/WA. But very suddenly this get's blown all out of relevence, and a good compliment is wasted.

I will say Dab, the belief about the territory thing isn't without validation. It may not apply to the WA necissarily, but it certainly does, or did, apply to you guys. To quote your mission statement, "We are slightly like a virus... We are trying to take control of all border and independant systems." Now, if that dosn't say Expansionist, I don't know what does.

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This is the real true story of rock and roll; it was not about anything more then, how to live your life, as a gangster, in sartorial splendor, and turning the world into a place where normality would never return again...- Malcolm McLaren

[Dab]

We know he meant that we were after territory and as he puts "glory" when he said that. He only says it every single thread. So we responded to it. He then said;

Well Mech, dead or not ... I sort of hoped that one would get back to you. Thats just a
reference to the fact that Dabs only concern is to take territory and make the AW look
good. Both of which he has failed to do miserably. I thought maybe you would be able to
do a better job of it.
I see now that your only concern is to make the WA and yourself look good, and take
territory.
You are right ... Its all about the glory, not about the game and anyone else involved in
it. We just happen to be on this server too.&nbsp;
And it would appear now we know who are friends are ...

Hoodlum

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Also that "We are slightly like a virus" applied to the beginning of AW when territory control and conquer was available to do. I should change that sometime, but Hoodlum just can't seem to get it into his head that that isn't what its about. So he just keeps talking about it and insulting us about it. You wanna know why Mech know he was talking about it? Look at the tons of threads Hoodlum started arguments and insults. What more evidence did he need to find out what Hoodlum's goal was?

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[Hyperwave22]

Well, it was good RP and I hope AW has fun here.


Additionally, stop arguing here, everyone. I think it's gotten a bit ridiculous that you two just won't stop. Hoodlum did "jab" at you Dab, but if you don't like it just ignore it and let it go. It will stop the arguing that nobody wants to deal with.

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Retired
A very big thanks to Dark Oddity who put my signature pic together

[marauder]

Hyperwave: It has been 'suggested' to dab that he ignore hoodlum, so far (as you can see) he hasn't.

Dab: you are being a right hypocrite, your currently the only one starting these 'arguements'.

Aside from the odd joking remark or comment hoodlum has left you alone like he was ASKED to.

You, however, haven't done as people have asked and TOLD you to do.

Namely ignoring him.

So put him on your ignored user list and stop this.

As for gathering glory?

Why else do you have Wylf hanging around?

To make the place look good?

Oh and remember that your on my ignored user list so don't bother replying.

[Dab]

Hypocrite right, sure. I believe I asked HIM to leave me alone. What did he do? He came in here and insulted my LEADERSHIP abilities. He insults me for how I run AW, yet he has neither MADE a faction, RUN a faction, or done anything else to prove he is any better than me, yet continues on like this.

Also, he talks to other people behind my back. Insulting some more. He can't stop. Its like he is addicted to it. He can't hold himself back.He said okay to you guys, but said no when I asked him to leave me alone. He went from open insulting to hiding insults inside little "jabs." Well those "jabs" are whats pissing me off. He puts one in every post he makes that has to do with me. Every single time I see his avatar and name in a thread the first thing that comes to mind is that he is likely talking about me again. Thats not something I want to think about ANYONE. But because he keeps doing it again and again I can't NOT think about it. He has show to be a compulsive insulter. He insulted Dane and DOESN'T EVEN KNOW HIM. He cannot get the assumption that WA is about "territory and conquest" out of his mind. Ask any of my members. They will all vouch that we are not interested in "territory." But in quality. Member quality based on their personality not their skill. Promotions given out for leadership qualities, activeness, and and how they act. Not promoted for skill.

But Hoodlum I guess just can't accept that. In his mind he has this belief about us, and no matter what happens or what people tell him he cannot accept that his view isn't right. I told him to stop the jabs, he has not. So am I supposed to just let him do it to me without defending myself? You all know he will continue to do it anyway and just say I'm being "overly serious about it" since I'm not responding to him. No matter what I do, its wrong in his eyes. I've joked about something with him before and he got mad at me. I asked him to stop, and he continued jabbing at me.

Hoodlum has tried to justify that he is talking in "RP" when talking to me. Well we all know its a load of bull****. There is nothing in RP that would constitute this behavior. This compulsion to insult.

If he would stop the CONSTANT jabs I would ignore him or laugh with him. But he does it ALL THE TIME. maybe once in awhile. Not on a scale of hours between each jab. Look at Virus and me. We jab at each other. But we do it in a joking manner, not to insult the other. We get along fine, because we don't jab to insult, but to entertain. That is what Hoodlum's jabs should be like. Not insulting leadership of a faction, or the personality of another. I think Hoodlum should be taking "jab" lessons from Virus.

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