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replacement BHG battleship
Offline Tic
10-11-2008, 12:00 AM,
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Uh, if it gets 6 forward, it leaves 8 backwards wich is just riddiculous. Only good thing about this ship is that
it has good firepower, so it can turn around and try to outrun opponent and shoot backwards. I clearly see
that you have never been in a fight with it Jinx, because then you would know that the moment any other
BB(except Osiris) gets withing 1.5k BH BB is as good as dead.

It should have 13/14 forward and 12 backward fire turrets.

Also it is designed as Artilery ship, to stay at higher distance and do great damage from there, but unable to
survive close range combat.

Also Tenacity, Order has 3 times as much Osirises as BHs have their BBs.
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Offline Tenacity
10-11-2008, 12:10 AM,
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Tic, reading comprehension, get some.

Jinx said that the object on the nose of the ship held hardpoints for 6 guns that fire forward, he (or she?) didnt say that it only has 6 forward firing guns - only that 6 of it's guns are clumped together in that spot.

[Image: Tenacity.gif]
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Offline mjolnir
10-11-2008, 12:18 AM,
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Tic it goes like this:

1. Model

2. Stats

3. Testing

4. Change of stats

then repeat 2-4).


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As Jinx already said BHG caps should fire all guns forward as they are meant as assault ships, not as defense ones. She's keeping that in mind while making the model... that is all.... final stats will be decided much later.

[Image: sigiw102.jpg]
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Offline RingoW
10-11-2008, 03:25 AM,
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I would say, make it 16,67 percent bigger as Liberty dreadnought, cause it has 2 guns more. Or make the same size and 16,67 percent worster in turning.
Maybe we could leave turning and size and make the armour 16,67 percent weaker.

Well, selfish as i am i will have to overwork the Legate then to give him 16 forward and 15 backward firing turrets, while reducing its size around 30 percent.

Man, i love sarkasm.

Let the BHG get the best gear of all factions. It wont make any difference.:P

Oh and now something constructive. For BHG i like the other one in Tics post more. Looks more like BHG.

AoM
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Offline Dennis Jameson
10-11-2008, 03:44 AM,
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It's a good thing that this isn't described as a "hybrid" ship, cause that would give those lulwutting wankers who fit a full array of Nomad cannons an excuse to do so.

I think it's a nice model all in all, however since "everybody" is screaming that it's "AN ASSAULT SHIP" it should have stats that reflect that type of design. (It's not like my opinion will make any diff, nor will yours, cause stats are not determined by us mortals)

-an evil grins spreads across his face as he types down the next couple of sentances-

Give the BHG players what they want and give it a full turret coverage in the front... but severely nerf it in it's side fire and rear fire abilities. (it should probably only have one turret which is able to fire backwards) That, my friend, is an assault ship.

Now, i don't claim to have toyed around with a BHG battleship, nor have i created a BHG character, but i DO know what an assault ship is suposed to be, and Jinx's model fits the bill perfectly.

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Offline Jinx
10-11-2008, 09:05 AM,
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revised the model based upon the feedback.

[Image: newBHGbattleship.png]

its now not horizontal anymore, but follows the basic lines of the other capital ships made by the BHG. i furthermore removed the retro look of it and enlarged the engines - while at the same time, regrouping them in a logical way with the ship.

added the open hangar to it and removed similarities to rheinland or bretonia. - it follows easier design lines now by making use of larger straight surfaces and less roundish ones.

the whole shape is quite similar to the current battleship with a compact design that is slightly wider than the other capships. - all in all, it should be about the very same size as the current battleship. due to the similar shape, i can copy / paste the current turrets from the old to the new ship.

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Offline Etaphreven
10-11-2008, 09:17 AM, (This post was last modified: 10-11-2008, 09:22 AM by Etaphreven.)
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Holy... win. Love the model Jinx. Brilliant work, as always.
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Offline Gamazson
10-11-2008, 09:20 AM,
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I dig that design. it will pull all the BHG caps together nicely.

AKA Nexus
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Offline mjolnir
10-11-2008, 09:34 AM,
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only one minor thing... those fins in the back could be a bit bigger. Now they are kind of hidden inside the model shape.

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Offline Jinx
10-11-2008, 09:38 AM,
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k - slightly larger back fins - once modified, i ll texture it... - and i fixed all the other ships today, too.

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