' Wrote:You might just admit, that Fl developers didn't use real astronomical data...
That is likely true, therefore we should move on to the second part of my post. Does anyone think we should designate a certain system as Sirius and make the necessary changes?
' Wrote:That is likely true, therefore we should move on to the second part of my post. Does anyone think we should designate a certain system as Sirius and make the necessary changes?
In that context the "Sirius System" is a group of stars in a large region of space, rather than a solar system like ours, or any of the ones Freelancer takes place in. So, for me, the answer is no.
' Wrote:In that context the "Sirius System" is a group of stars in a large region of space, rather than a solar system like ours, or any of the ones Freelancer takes place in. So, for me, the answer is no.
I didn't say there had to be planets or anything but, perhaps it is more work that it is worth.
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I found something interesting on the Sirius Wikipedia page as well...
Quote:In 1909, Ejnar Hertzsprung was the first to suggest that Sirius was a member of the Ursa Major Moving Group, based on his observations of the system's movements across the sky. The Ursa Major Group is a set of 220 stars that share a common motion through space and were once formed as members of an open cluster, which has since become gravitationally unbound.[81] However, analyses in 2003 and 2005 found Sirius's membership in the group to be questionable; the Ursa Major Group has an estimated age of 500100 million years, while Sirius, with metallicity similar to the Sun's, has an age that is only half this, making it too young to belong to the group.[7][82][83] Sirius may instead be a member of the proposed Sirius Supercluster, along with other scattered stars such as Beta Aurigae, Alpha Coronae Borealis, Beta Crateris, Beta Eridani and Beta Serpentis.[84] This is one of three large clusters located within 500 light years of the Sun. The other two are the Hyades and the Pleiades, and each of these clusters consists of hundreds of stars.[85]
Perhaps the Sirius Sector is the Sirius Supercluster...
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Maybe it's Sigma-60. There's a large white star, and a blue dwarf. Relative close proximity, and are of different size and brightness, like Sirius A and B.
A way a lone a last a loved a long the riverrun, past Eve and Adam's, from swerve of shore to bend of bay,
brings us by a commodius vicus of recirculation back to Howth Castle and Environs.
The rumors about Kusari is probably a mistake. Maybe they wanted to include Sirius on some early stages of development, but that's it.
I already commented on this in another thread some time ago, but I'll try to summarize now. It's most logical that Sirius Sector is simply part of the galaxy that lies in the direction of Sirius star when viewed from Sol. Map posted by Carlos one page before represents fairly well what I'm talking about. Sleeper ships were also headed in the direction of Sirius (might even have used its gravity to accelerate, since Sirius A is a fairly large star compared to most others). However, all ships passed much longer distance after Sirius than before it. If Sirius was in this game, Sol should be there, too.
Here: http://www.atlasoftheuniverse.com/12lys.html
is the vector to Sirius. Note the arrow towards the center of the Galaxy (it doesn't match direction on the next few maps of this website).
I presume that sleeper ships had some sort of warp drives, if they didn't have FTL, the journey would take too much time. It doesn't mean that the ships reached Sirius instantly, of course. I also presume that current Sirius star map you see in-game is schematic. It does not represent 3rd dimention (although the galaxy disc is 100 thousand LY in diameter, but its dense part is only 1 thousand LY thick, so it's fairly 2D). It does not represent real distances between stars. And it does not represent all stars available in this area. Many star systems simply have no jump holes in them, and are inavailable for faster-than-light exploration.
Where is Sol and Sirius on the universe map then? Answer is very simple: both Sirius and Sol are far to the south-east of Omicron Gamma. Hispania is the only sleeper ship about which we know its direction: it arrived to Gamma, then got to Alpha. Easy to determine where it was coming from (since it had no reason to change direction: even if the settlers could change direction, it was only a minor change that helped to navigate to Alpha).
I'll post an image here that should display my own concept of where Sirius Sector is located on the real map of Milky Way. Unfortunately, the background image had no scale, but I know approximately what the distances are. The image is rotated 180 degrees ("Sol" is rotated too, sorry, it was part of the backgroud). On this image, you see Sirius Sector as it's seen on the universe map.
Green circle is the main populated area.
Purple circle is Gallia.
Blue circle is Nomad space (note that Nomad systems are meant to be farther away from the "green" circle than they are on the universe map)..
Dotted red line represents the route of sleeper ships (and direction from Sol to Sirius).
Again, the size/location of the circles is approximate, since there's no scale. I'd say that it's logical if Gamma was located several hundred LY away from Sol (300-500 LY), this is where the green circle starts. Gallia might be 700-900 LY away from Sol. The distances might seem too far away, but note that there are only a few stars within 10 LY from Sol, for example. Density in Sirius might be higher. But systems with large systems of planets and (especially) systems that have habitable planets should be rare compared to the total number of star systems in the area.
It's just a game, anything else is coincidence, microsoft don't have the inteligence to base it on reality.
Also, i feel an idiot even thinking of going against Igiss here *bows* but is the sol system not in one of the arms of the galaxy, nearer the edge ......sir......
Image that I used as a background is based on real and up-to-date astronomical data. You can check Wikipedia if you wish. So, the location of Sun on this image is as correct as it can be with current level of technology.
![[Image: Sig3.png]](http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff332/lib3drakeaj/Sig3.png)
![[Image: whatissirius.jpg]](http://igiss.net/images/whatissirius.jpg)
