Not because i would hate caps (anywhere) but because i believe everyone should have the freedom
to fly the ships they like at least in their own systems.
Actually, i don't mind LABC going to sigmas, taus, omicrons as long as they don't attack people (since they're out of their ZOI)
I don't mind Caps camping their home planets.
I don't mind lawful battleships attacking unlawful light-fighters as long as they put up a good show (this is a RP server after all)
Why restrict caps from NY? An outcast has the right to fly his OC Dessie anywhere NPCs of his faction go.
And btw, there is an NPC OCdessie-station right in NY.
No... My battleship is already too restricted in what it can do, and now you want to restrict where i can go? Hell even if such a rule existed it would HAVE to be ignored by the lawfuls.
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New York is the home of Liberties Capital Planet. Home to its government and highly influential people. Headquarters to the LN, LSF and LPI are there. Of course the LN is going to have capital ships there. They are going to be there to protect the the government and peoples.
Now, for capital ships of other nations showing up in a capital planets system shooting up the lawful forces would be an act of War, one that no nation would stand for. Maximum effort would be the plan of the day to expel such an invader.
So to hear "I want to take my OC dessie into NY to flirt with the Navy guys" would be akin to the USS Abraham Lincoln pulling into a major port in a different country unannounced "Just cause the guys want to get with the locals for the Lulz".
I am going to say that 80% of the problem isn't caused by the factionalized LSF (No caps), Factionalized LPI ( 1 gunboat, almost never comes out), or the factionalized and some indie LN. I have seen it myself where the LN (Faction and some closely related indies ) have changed out ships to MAKE THINGS EVEN. Yup, you heard it right. I have SEEN with my own eyes and READ it in the group chat where ships are ordered to stand off or change over to a fighter or bomber.
Personally, the argument, well, the outcasts have NPCs there makes it ok to take my dessie, bs, cruiser, whatever into New York. I would like to point out that the majority of the ships the OC NPCs fly are fighters.
The 1 lone Dessie that is there is a LR base. Yup, a base, not a mobile warship. **Note** I am not anti Oucast.
Corsairs? Not supposed to be in liberty. Mollies? A little far from home, aint ya? Bounty Hunter cap ships? I would think someone would be a little nervous over cap ships that were under the personal control of 1 individual. Lane Hacker battleships? LR Destroyers? Doesn't sound like Liberty is going to war in 4.85, its at war right now in 4.84 .
I personally feel that the caps WHO BELONG in Liberty stay. The ones that do not, need to be banned.
I also feel there should be a review process of indie cap ships. I know a lot of Indie commanders who are great players, and I respect them for that, but there are more meatheads out there who cant handle it. As soon as they find out that the factionalized LN cannot give them orders, it's pvp whoring time. Say if a Indie player has more than 3 complaints about his behaviour in a cap, yank it. I don't care how long it took to make the money for it. IF THEY CAN"T HANDLE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF HAVING IT, THEY DON'T NEED IT. This happened with a BH battleship, he ended up in a starflier.
Example; A player was flying a ship that they were setting up, was even labeled as a training vessel, with 2 mark 1 justices on board was destroyed by a indie LNS cap last night. The regular LN ordered him not to engage, that it was a training ship and setting up. The LNS ship destroyed it anyways. Claimed the the training ship had damaged him.
Ok, that's enough from me, feel free to tell me to get lost.
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Well I dont know what you are suggesting, BUT the answer is NOT to stop using caps.
The answer is to use more caps. Interesting eh?
The reason we see caps as being whored and PVPwhores because largely all they are used for is PVP. You hardly see any capships on just going about their regular duties, RPing. Often the caps only come around to wtf pwn things.
So to all CAP drivers, GET ON MORE OFTEN and show NewYork how to RP.
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Is it really that much of a problem? We get the occational LOLWUT BH ship but for the most part people have been pretty OK lately. Maybe it is my time zone, no idea.
You know guys, there are other houses... If Liberty pisses you off so bad you could go elsewhere.
I think the bad example is a really loud minority. Then again, some say I am part of the problem too so.... ahh well.
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I dont agree with all of that.
Although, you have a point. actions count, and new players do what we see others doing.
Then we get unreasonable fines/punitive removal of weapons levied against us.
Maybe the "server police" should change the list of rules and sanctions to actually reflect the way overblown sanctions they actually use against players. Infact you can condense it all down to one rule, "Do anything we dont like, and we will take all your money, all your weapons, and effectively destroy the character you have built"