Nightfall, I know. The one pilot of ours I saw that had an Outcast tag ended up deleting that character and starting over, hes straight planetform now. I believe the only tag problems we have now are 2 traders.
And if I weren't so busy with other things I would look at alternate loadouts for us (possibly mini razor+Bret class 9s)
I'll get around to it.
In the mean time, we are green with Outcasts not out of any design or purposely sought out loophole. It is just a fact of where and how we have played within our RP. I accept our equipment and status as it is because of the process I went through to arrive at it. I organised an RP, then found ships/equipment that fit the RP, not the other way around.
Yngen, if you had looked closely at what I had said, you would realize I stated I used Outcast in place of Bundschuh weaponry because the Bundschuh use OUTCAST ships. Thats why I don't use the GMG Sunblast Bs, or the Corsair Krakens. I don't use that faction's weapons if they are worthless, but neither do I use one that is completely against my RP. I have Disinfector 3s on my GC Eagle, because the GC's allies, Blood Dragons, sell it right on Kyoto.
My AW fighter is even using Fury 4s, even though it is one of the worst class 9s I have ever seen.
I voted for the equip with either your own or at least friendly factions for equipment usage. Outcast should be considered friendly just because they are green. Friendly is determined by your host faction's reps. And Planetform is in no way friendly with the Outcasts.
Notice how everyone said LENIENT or some synonym of the word regarding guns. That doesn't mean anything and everything. That means relatively close matches to your RP, such as friendly faction weapons. That would be BAF, Liberty, Rheinland, maybe even GMG guns. That would NOT include Outcast weaponry.
No problems from me with this, The Zoners sell Coladas and Nova AMCs, sure if you wished you could have
engineered a little RP to cover yourselves. Nice that you havn't ...
My own chars use mainly weapons that you can loot, from wrecks or enemy ships. Rarely buy them, unless
as a faction we are doing some testing.
Recently though due to the fact that the Corsairs seem to have stopped dropping Tizonas now, or I havn't had
any for an age. I have joined McNeo and a few others in purchasing the Adv Debilitator, from New York.
There are plenty of good alternative weapons around now, if people were a little less interested in just being
the best PvPer, and got into the roleplay.
Yngen, there are far worse out there at the moment, nice if they made a bit of an effort too ...
Hoodlum
*Corsair* Krakens ? Dab, new one on me ...
Some say he is a proud member of: "The most paranoid group of people in the Community."
Yes, the Kraken is the Outcast Particle cannon. The corsairs sport a neutron cannon and shield-busters.
Personally, I have a problem with weapon leniency. When ever there have been new recruits in SA, I have thus far told them that out of RP weapons are not to be used, aside from codeds and civilian weps. Despite the fact that Liberty has some really really sh**ty guns, we even not to leave the RP idea.
People tell me that guns are not that important to RP, but I think that if you allow this one breach of RP, there will be more.
@ Dab, Luci's a AW, right? Doesn't that mean that he is a merc, and thus should be able to use any weps he wants? I dunno, he is your char, so you know best.
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' Wrote:@ Dab, Luci's a AW, right? Doesn't that mean that he is a merc, and thus should be able to use any weps he wants? I dunno, he is your char, so you know best.
AW is aligned with the Zoners, so we try to use their ships and weaponry as much as possible. Which is why the flagship is a Zoner Juggernaut, and most of my fighters will be Eagles. Luciaden's fighter is a Raven's Talon and it is the only exception for my fighters, other than the soon-to-be Xizer's ravensclaw, as he has always flown one.
The problem with being Zoner aligned, is that all they have are the Zoner Dromedary, Eagle (and the Falcon/Hawk), and Juggernaut, having no gunboats or cruisers. We end up having alot of non-Zoner ships because of that.
' Wrote:>< Liberty has some really really sh**ty guns, we even not to leave the RP idea.
man, what are you talking about? not the Vengeance and Magma Hammer class 9s I hope!
If the stars should appear one night in a thousand years, how would men believe and adore and preserve for many generations the remembrance of the city of God? - from 'Nightfall' by I. Asimov The Outcasts consider Siniestre Nube a sacred place for several reasons. Early explorers discovered a jumphole within the depths of the cloud that leads to a strange world of ringed stars and strange craft. All ships in the burrial ground are placed facing that hole to honor the Alien Spirits. - An Outcast rumor
Jack Handey Wrote:I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it.
' Wrote:This might have come up before, so sorry if it has, but i was in Cambridge last night on a patrol came across some BSG who wanted me to leave and i chose not to, so i engaged.
Anyways I'm fighting, and as I'm about to be destroyed by like 3 of them, i scan one. A total outcast load out on a Viper.
And expensive ones too, so this guy was obviously cozy with them as he would have to go to the home planet to get them.
I'm just registering a complaint/want of clarification, since i mean honestly, a lawful faction should not be friends with the outcasts.
And i cant remember what his tag was but it was green in my HUD, and i only have Junkers, Hessians, Bunchush, Unioners, and Outcasts as green. So what ever he was he obviously wasn't a lawful. However, i realize the issue with misplaced tags as it has happened to me, but the weaps are what kills me.
If possible id like an explanation for the weapon load out. seems a tad unfair.
Just to make things clear. I was that guy. U scanned me.
And now some corrections to your statement.
Yes i have 6 Krakens MKII and one inferno gun. That is only equip i have on my ship...no mines, no CMs.
Yes i am neutral with outcast, almost green - Planetform is enemie with corairs and corsairs make majority of NPCs that i kill since they invade Cambridge. Corsairs are enemies of Outcasts, and killing of sairs makes me quite friendly with outcasts.
I agree that my weps dont suit my Planetform rep, but like romer nicley said..if i even want try to beat others that use better weps i must use them too...i cant make others to use RP weps...and there is old saying...if u cant beat them..join them...I don't want to win at any cost, but i also don't wont to loose every time...BSG is one of the most limited faction on server when it comes to ships and now weps...we try to RP as best we can, and we are better to that then most factions... but i wont let this faction become everybody's punching bag.
And back u to Oslav...
U were junker IDed, corsair tagged Helghast in Rheinland VHF Wrath. I did scan u but i didn't look at your weps. So i guess that was great RP from your side too.
So before u go out and teach me how to RP u may look at your own char.
U said that i was green in your hud and that is impossible since i do have Planetform affiliation and u were corsair tagged..red as hell to my fighter...For example those other two junkers were neutral with me...and i didn't attack them although they were there before u. When i attacked u i acted upon your corsair tag..not your ID, your ship or weps. When u are red in my hud u will get attacked, no matter what your ID says.
I will look into some other weps and setups..but that takes time...my chars were deleted twice in past month so i was quite busy with rebuilding them...i don't know stats of other weps so i use of those i do know...Discovery if big mod and takes a lot of time to explore things...and u may i say i could use bret weps...well i dont want to use them, i don't like them...i am sucker for nice effect while shooting and bret weps don't have that..so sew me...:P