I can have my own opinion thank you very much Dab. Leave me alone, You arnt worth my time. You got a problem with someone having there own opinion?:yes:
Your saying anyone using logic would agree with you, implying that those who agreed were not using logic. Thats the problem I had, not your opinion. You can make your opinion I'm fine with that, but don't imply your right by fact, and everyone else who disagrees is wrong.
Actually the Sabre and its sisters are classed as Borderworlds ships, neither Outcast nor Zoner.
Just because we don't "need" an Outcast GB doesn't mean we "shouldn't" build one. So what if its not needed? What about all the Taiidan and other non-Vanilla ships, they are not needed either. In fact nothing is really needed except the Starflier. Then we can all zip around, pirating and PvP'ing on perfectly equal footing, and everyone's happy.
If someone is prepared to put in the work to add an Outcast GB, then I'm happy to have it included. As long as it doesn't throw the balance of the game out, and I don't think it will since it was pointed out the Destroyer almost fills the same niche.
Other things are needed more, I think that's what Dab's saying.
We don't need the Outcast GB, but we need a Pirate Bomber. We need lots of stuff.
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Wow... I drop off for a couple of days and you guys haven't started another war! I'm impressed!
Now, to business; There is a distinct difference between -NEED- and -WANT-.
To correct your post, Flyer, we -WANT- lots of stuff. -NEED- is something like when the Raven Claw had two thrusters, a huge number of guns, killer manuverability, and a power supply to match. -NEED- is when the Slipstream could take on any ship at any time because nothing could hit it and it was deadly. -NEED- is when the Military and the Police are fighting eachother because something got screwy with the NPC reps.
Discovery has enough blasted ships. Yes, we would -LIKE- to have some more, possibly even a lot more. But -NEED-? No. We do not -NEED- any more ships.
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' Wrote:-NEED- is something like when the Raven Claw had two thrusters, a huge number of guns, killer manuverability, and a power supply to match.
Those were the days...
Umm, we do NEED to have a very few ships added in though, or current ones made available to new people. Pirates need a bomber.. GMG has one, and Rheinland has one.. Not exactly fair to the pirates, who are those who need them the most.. Other than that.. Don't need anything. I want some Zoner capships thats smaller and easier to move around than that blasted asteroid-stuck prone Juggernaut.. (Why do you think it never leaves Omicron Theta/74?)
@Kane; Well, I lost my HDD around the same time you broke your computer.. So you can guess why wars have been at a low. Good news is, I'm back, and there are new people to pester, and old factions to shoot at! *Looks towards Rheinland with a hungry eye.*
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I hate you Dab:lol:. And I so nearly got away but you caught me...and then i somhow mistook you for Dboy....lol....
Anyway, I do think that the philosophy of every faction needing every shipclass is a bit too much. I reckon though, that the Outcasts still dont have enough and they should choose between either a bomber or a gunboat, as they already have a fighter, destroyer and battleship...
I think every faction bar the tiny ones or those that their RP do not allow (NPC that is) should have 4 of the 5 classes. (IMO the LF MkII does not count as a class...)
At the moment, the Corsairs have 4 (Huntress, Osiris, Titan, Corsair Gunboat), though the cruiser is pretty much useless:P. If the Outcasts would get a bomber due to the cheaper armour available for the Corsairs, that would even things out (like they need evening out already ( [GoR] > [TBH] at the moment) but it is in terms of NPCs)
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Ahh Mal, thats cute....:laugh:.
Do you always sing Dab to sleep or...:crazy:
Personaly I think we NEED to stop adding new ships and redo some of the curret ships that have never been used since they where added and look nothing like a ship from Freelancer.
Ok now how about we make a new topic called what we NEED vs WANT rather than getting anymore of topic here?
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I've been mildly miffed by one-shot weapons since their implementation, oh so long ago. I remember the days when fights were a matter of who could aim better, rather than who could aim a single shot. - Virus
I started playing this mod because of the richness of ships. Eyecandy attracts attention. Attention = players.
I bought me a beautiful ship, not an RP-correct ship in the beginnning. Imagine a perfectly armed and equipped Corsair dreadnought with a police tag and freelancer ID. I chose that ship because it was the most beautiful I knew by that time... Over half a year ago...
I agree, that the availible ships require fixing. Imo, very little work is left.
However the mod should expand. Evolve. Develop.
If we limit ourselves to what we really need, we may as well drop the mod. 1.0 was good enough.
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