And this makes a difference in our ability to play the game/have fun/roleplay how?
A way a lone a last a loved a long the riverrun, past Eve and Adam's, from swerve of shore to bend of bay,
brings us by a commodius vicus of recirculation back to Howth Castle and Environs.
How do you /want/ me to respond to that, Unseelie?
A way a lone a last a loved a long the riverrun, past Eve and Adam's, from swerve of shore to bend of bay,
brings us by a commodius vicus of recirculation back to Howth Castle and Environs.
' Wrote:There are not anymore peaceful outsiders with need for space, which always pushing them further into the dark edges of Sirius, to be free from the rule of the corrupt governments and corporations of the colonies.
Maybe they went far out of known space, escaping from new wave of present Zoners, which are like another colony, with their own system and planet, warships, huge transports, diplomacy, rules, corruption and corporations.
Well they started to look more and more as any other houses. Power hungry, corrupted in some cases. oligarchs in some point. Capitalistic guys.
But this is not what shouldn't happen. The thing is, if they would find out a good place to settle like a planet, they would end up just like any other house they tried to runaway in the start. This is unavoidable, it's in human nature. Once they feel pressure and have ideas they need to achieve they will work together. That's something that keeps them for what they are, once they achieve that.. say good bye to everything you liked about zoner roleplay.
So.. basicly they shoudn't have any planets. But oh well...
But of course rp changes in time. FOr example Jinx mentioned corsair food problem:
Blah there is no longer a problem here. Yes they lack it, but there is no longer massive starvations and such things. Youl would call taht powergaming or something? Nah. Basicly corsairs needs not only food but they need everything. They need resources for building their nations into full power agressive imperialistic house. And they always lack resources to achieve that. There is constant struggle to make that a reality. Even if they get some... "The more you have, the more you need" thing will always drive them to shortage.
either way - the question "what zoner RP is about and how it is meant to be" is exclusivly zoner business.
after all, you don t want liberty dedicated players to dictate the lore and RP of corsairs either. - input is always welcome, but the main definition is made up by those that RP it. - every faction has odd parts that the faction doesn t really agree with much.
on the other hand - stigmata may also become rather annoying. - maybe the xeno next door doesn t want to RP a redneck in space anymore, maybe the BHG do not want to be classified as ex-criminals, maybe the blood dragon isn t so much after restoring the old ways.
but such change must come from within the faction, not from the outside - the outside always has certain views.... and these views usually benefit themselves.
I don't quite care what factions make of themselves, I can obviously find quite repulsive the level of player corruption of vanilla factions, and comment on it accordingly. But the main feature is, the selective nature of players, you want all the good but none of the bad, zoners are a prime example of this. Why do you cling on to the neutrality, when it clearly is no longer plausable, with such a rapid and unexplained expansion of power? Having planets and battleships means you are clearly meant to be treated differently.
People have been warned by Admins before for making enemies of zoners, oorp hate? Player abuse? Not keeping within respect of others? Or, perfectly inRP response to the changes that have been shoved in the faces of the factions that deal with the new monster of a faction that spawned from the old, rather unoffensive faction.
Reap what you soe. And stay away from the forums when someone blows you up.
In short; if players are to control the fate of their factions rp, then let players be in control of how they treat the changes of rp of other factions.
' Wrote:They should be Zonersi stripped from their power to become who they were again.
It is of course heresy and won't happen.
What power are you talking about?
Also. How about you post what you think Zoners are instead of posting hate and not contributing to the thread.
' Wrote:Well they started to look more and more as any other houses. Power hungry, corrupted in some cases. oligarchs in some point. Capitalistic guys.
But this is not what shouldn't happen. The thing is, if they would find out a good place to settle like a planet, they would end up just like any other house they tried to runaway in the start. This is unavoidable, it's in human nature. Once they feel pressure and have ideas they need to achieve they will work together. That's something that keeps them for what they are, once they achieve that.. say good bye to everything you liked about zoner roleplay.
So.. basicly they shoudn't have any planets. But oh well...
Word. I'd accept a retcon in the form of it being removed. That however is very very damaging to a ton of people's current role play. Mine included.