' Wrote:Why? Give me a reason aside the one that the Corsairs have the Gladiator and that you'd like to see one.
The BHG already have more ships than they should. And please spare me the "That's not a reason against it." Fly the Hammerhead. Or if everyone is inclined to have it, just change a few things on the Hammerhead ( class 9 guns and shields, lower powercore ) and make it a HF.
And a funny fact is, that you've picked the best spots for the razor, guns and mines. Coincidence? :laugh:
Barracuda has no MK II,
So lets give it a purpose,
Unless you can come up with something better?
And those points you are talking about are the same on the manta,
Only thing this is missing is the bottom 2 guns.
But with a low core lets say 9,8k or 9,5k
and armor of 8800?
Really I see nothing against it.
oh and about chaging the Hammerhead?
Why not change the centurion to the gladie and remove the whole gladie? -.-
Edit:
Oh and hunters are supposed to hunt,
Ain't doing that a lot without CD's now eh?
I bet you like to encounter this instead of orca's and Bottlenoses eh?
Yeah, It'd be nice. But then there'd be the question of what to do with the Hammerhead, as the BHG have... Sea Serpernt (mk II Pirahna) Manta (Mk II Hammerhead) Hammerhead, and the Mk II Barracuda. That's a lot of fighters 0.o. Maybe the Hammerhead could be specialized somehow? After all, the Border World line got a Stilleto Mk II called the Switchblade, but I never see it flown even though its model is freakin beautiful.
' Wrote:Yeah, It'd be nice. But then there'd be the question of what to do with the Hammerhead, as the BHG have... Sea Serpernt (mk II Pirahna) Manta (Mk II Hammerhead) Hammerhead, and the Mk II Barracuda. That's a lot of fighters 0.o. Maybe the Hammerhead could be specialized somehow? After all, the Border World line got a Stilleto Mk II called the Switchblade, but I never see it flown even though its model is freakin beautiful.
Hammerhead is already the normal HF
Manta is it's MK II brother
Switchblade is awesome, although only 8k armor which makes you go poof with 1mr and 1 bump
' Wrote:Barracuda has no MK II,
So lets give it a purpose,
Unless you can come up with something better?
I see no legitimate reason for it there. "Let's give it a purpose" is like the same as saying let's have it because we can.
Quote:And those points you are talking about are the same on the manta,
Only thing this is missing is the bottom 2 guns.
Not really. The Manta, if I'm not mistaken has a CD/razor slot at the bottom of the cockpit, while you intend to have one on top of it. Which is the best position to have it really. And I was just making an observation, nothing more. If the ship is ever implemented into the mod, I'd have no problem with the equipment positions.
Quote:Really I see nothing against it.
I see nothing for it either. The Corsairs have the Gladiator because they are expert shipbuilders. What's the BHG's excuse?
Quote:oh and about chaging the Hammerhead?
Why not change the centurion to the gladie and remove the whole gladie? -.-
If you can provide a valid reason for its removal, I'd support you.
Quote:Oh and hunters are supposed to hunt,
Ain't doing that a lot without CD's now eh?
I bet you like to encounter this instead of orca's and Bottlenoses eh?
Well, this isn't exactly a bad idea. The only real problem I can think of is the uniqueness factor. I mean, sure, one, two, maybe three quasi-bombers like this can get by, however, how long is it until every faction gets one? A "Me too!" mentality can run pretty rampant, so if we can keep these things crazy and unique, sure, good idea, but if not, nah, we can do without another Gladiator.
What I really think would work better is doing something like this to the Marauder and saying that a crazy man designed it. Something obscene and strange which most ship builders wouldn't think of is something an independent ship builder can make and test, like this design. So, really, maybe not the BHG, but something else completely different (actually, it's like the Virage is modeled just for this type of thing).
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Razor is on the bottom CD on the top.
Just like the gladie
You didn't follow the lines properly
And Maybe you don't find it an valid idea.
But since the ship isn't used in game I see no point using it and IMO it's an valid argument.
Also because someone isn't an expert he can make a lot.
Also because someone is a expert he can make very good ones but in short supply.
Look at the worlds car brands.
So give my 1 very valid idea why not to add it then?
Instead of just giving invalid arguments against it IMO. eh?
Edit: Why is everyone talking about quasi bombers?
Razor is made against bombers and fighters -.-
Quote:What's the BHG's excuse?
Money.
people.
an unused ship.
hunting priority in the houses.
' Wrote:Razor is on the bottom CD on the top.
Just like the gladie
You didn't follow the lines properly
Kay. Fair enough.
Quote:And Maybe you don't find it an valid idea.
But since the ship isn't used in game I see no point using it and IMO it's an valid argument.
I don't get this part.
Quote:Also because someone isn't an expert he can make a lot.
Also because someone is a expert he can make very good ones but in short supply.
Look at the worlds car brands.
Nor this one.
Quote:So give my 1 very valid idea why not to add it then?
Instead of just giving invalid arguments against it IMO. eh?
You're throwing imo and valid a lot here. 1 valid idea why not have it? Because the BHG already have enough ships. The Hammerhead is what you want, just slightly worse, so you basically want to add another ship that already exists just so you can have something similar to the Gladiator because you want a razor and a CD. That's why I'm not a fan of this. Can you give me one valid reason why have it? Aside the "why not" comment.
Quote:Money.
people.
an unused ship.
hunting priority in the houses.
How much money does the BHG have? My effin God! Battleships, invasions, wars... They all cost a lot, and the BHG does not lack them.
There are far more unused ships in the mod that need replacement. The BHG has plenty of ships, no need to add one to them while other factions, groups, people, or whatever lack them.
I say again, simply alter the Hammerhead a bit and that's it.
All vanilla fighters have MK II, except for the VHF fighters that already exist.
except for the Starflyer, starblazer and the startracker.
And the barracuda.
All go upto lvl 9 guns except for the barracuda.
Thats my point.
And making it like a normal HF isn't going to work since the hammerhead already is.
The barracuda is the only left vanilla ship that could use a MK II.
I hope you get my point now?
Also if we are going INRP with this...
Why do MK I fighters exist?
I get your point mate, was just in a mood for a good discussion.
I've nothing against new ships, neither do I have anything against the "Pike". However I do find altering the Hammerhead a bit so it fits the Barracuda Mk II style more appealing than creating an entirely new ship. Because quite frankly, both the Barracuda and the Hammerhead are rarely used. Two flies with one strike.
Mk I fighters could be explained as cheap production cost vessels, but quite frankly they are here only to have lulzy fights in them. :laugh:
I get your point mate, was just in a mood for a good discussion.
I've nothing against new ships, neither do I have anything against the "Pike". However I do find altering the Hammerhead a bit so it fits the Barracuda Mk II style more appealing than creating an entirely new ship. Because quite frankly, both the Barracuda and the Hammerhead are rarely used. Two flies with one strike.
Mk I fighters could be explained as cheap production cost vessels, but quite frankly they are here only to have lulzy fights in them. :laugh: