You have a point but coming in here and saying "YOU CAN'T MAKE ME I PAID FOR IT!" etc is not going to win you any arguments. Needless to say things can be changed and you can be forced to give up said ship. Don't come into a discussion with an attitude like that.
My view is that the KuEx is an old design and there's TONS of them on the market with private sellers, so it's not as if they're new or rare. Hence, the Kusari government doesn't care too much about who uses it.
' Wrote:You have a point but coming in here and saying "YOU CAN'T MAKE ME I PAID FOR IT!" etc is not going to win you any arguments. Needless to say things can be changed and you can be forced to give up said ship. Don't come into a discussion with an attitude like that.
My view is that the KuEx is an old design and there's TONS of them on the market with private sellers, so it's not as if they're new or rare. Hence, the Kusari government doesn't care too much about who uses it.
I would love to see another point-of-sale besides the lawful Yukawa Shipyard in Kusari. Maybe Barrier Gate.
' Wrote:It still turns slower, and has less guns then Imperator. It might be as good as Bretonian GB though.
Um, no. if it were as 'good' as a Bret gb, it would be a Startracker. A Startracker the size of planet Leeds.
The ku ex is indeed a weird ship. everyone and his dog flies one. and for an 'explorer, it is one of he best gbs around when it comes to fighting other gbs. As long as you keep them either in front or behind you which isnt that hard to do really.
For a civvie exploration ship, it kicks too much ass imho.
' Wrote:Probably the most OORP ship available in the mod is the T-833-GB "Ahoudori" Kusari Explorer. I've seen Freelancers, Pirates and Bounty Hunters using this ship for the sole reason that it can kick serious but and is even capable of defeating house gunboats. This is supposed to be a Kusari civilian ship. Read the description in the wiki. But this ship is capable of mounting class 8 gunboat turrets.
Worst OORP setup I've seen is the following:
Ship: T-833-GB "Ahoudori" Kusari Explorer
ID: Freelancer
IFF: Freelancer
Guns: Zoner gunboat turrets
My request for the next update to this mod is that we downgrade the guns on the Ahoudori from class 8 to class 7 transport turrets. This thing is supposed to be for "exploration" and not for combat. Its weapons should be for defense, not offense.
As someone who has flown almost every GB in the game, I think I should say my piece. The KuEx is one of the WORST combat Boats in the game.
Look at the Libby GB, that thing is untoutchable, I got one of those and took it to Con and had a field day on Cruisers and GBs with CAU8's.
Look at the Hessians GB, that thing is agile as a bee and has a stronger hull than the KuEx, one of those can take on two KuEx's if he's smart.
Look at the RM GB, that thing is so narrow a KuEx can barely hit a strafing one with Solaris turrets, not to mention its incredible hull...
Arm a Kusari Military GB with some defense turrets, and keep it high in the sky (where only 2 KuEx turrets can fire btw, top and bottem of those things are weak) keeping a constant low energy fire until you hit the hull then tear apart your opponent with the forward gun; man that thing is small and mean.
The thing is as a Pirate, PLEASE give me any other House GB, I would LOVE for one of you to be so kind... For Rorry, the KuEx might have some power, but any other GB in the game can slaughter it if the person has equal skill. The only GB that the the KuEx is better than is the Bret GB. If you think its so powerful, then get one, its not like most military's can't easily acquire one.
ONE LAST NOTE: If you still think the the KuEx is really some super awesome GB for some reason, buy one, take it to Con and fight me, THEN use any lawful GB and fight me again, see which one dies faster (or kills me faster I suppose). my skype is calebalevesque if you want to take this offer...
' Wrote:Um, no. if it were as 'good' as a Bret gb, it would be a Startracker. A Startracker the size of planet Leeds.
The ku ex is indeed a weird ship. everyone and his dog flies one. and for an 'explorer, it is one of he best gbs around when it comes to fighting other gbs. As long as you keep them either in front or behind you which isnt that hard to do really.
For a civvie exploration ship, it kicks too much ass imho.
Not true. I managed to beat a KuEx in a Hacker gunship without loosing shield, only by keeping distance and sniping his shield with pulse cannon. Sure, he wasn't the best pilot, but neither am I. And Hacker GS is definitely amongst the weakest gunboats in game. Rogue GB, for example, can beat the crap out of KEB without a sweat if the two pilots are equally skilled.
Kusari Explorer is the slowest turning GB in game, you can make circles around it in any other GB if you have some basic piloting skills. It's also big enough to hit it from some distance while being able to dodge his fire if you are in any smaller gunboat (and most gb's are smaller then KEB). It's also pretty easy to SNAC it.
I agree with Veygaar here.
Lucendez Wrote:
It is every Corsair's responsibility to die a beautiful death in defense of Crete, regardless of how OORP or how capwhoring the opposition is. Launch your fighter, joust the battlecruisers and die a beautiful death. Then, drink it down in the bar.
' Wrote:I could bring my Behemoth and I believe it will go down faster against the KuEx than many other GBs.
GBvsTransport =/= GBvsGB
Is the question here: Are KuEx's to powerful over all?
Or: Are we hinting that Pirates with a KuEx are 'too' powerful for traders to run away from?
If its the first question then the answer is easily NO.
If its the second please make another thread about how the Pirate ID should not allow GB's for "insert reason here."
If the rule is made, I will happily go on pirating in bomber pairs which happens to be both cheaper for me, and a much quicker method to kill running transports. Although harder when dealing with lawfuls.
That probably sounded rather hostile I suppose, but please, put yourself in my shoes. Ones where, every day you log on, RM emergency skype channels explode and within 20 mins you have 5/6 SNUBs on you and a few GBs to boost (one time even 3 BSs aswell). Although I may have just 'complained' in my previous statement, I try my best not to complain about these DAILY experiences, nor to I look to 'nurf' the methods of those who beat me. I simply look at the situation that happened, think of how to do better next time, tell the fellas 'good fight' and move on.
KuGB also spanks the KuEx, due to the ability to remain indefinately in the KuEx's weakzones, and when the KuEx forces a straight line chase, the KuGB is far, far harder to hit than the KuEx.
Where the KuEx shines is against lone bombers (particularly heavy ones), and fighters. Obviously against increasing numbers of either, it is at a severe disadvantage. But one person shouldn't really be able to take down five other people based solely on the technology at their disposal, in my opinion, unless flying a battleship.
Just about anything can kill a transport, so.. eh. Balancing based on that seems a little daft.
In short, I have no complaints about the KuEx in its current state, or availability.
I have only a complai about this ship.... is UGLY AS HELL.... that thing needs a facelifting, slow and clunky, why not? think about, for an example, few of my chars are "free" pirates, obviously they cannot affort the best, some people say the Ahudori is OORP, i don't think so, for the reason explained, that it have 7 guns? think calmly about it... is a "deep space Explorer" get into the skin of the designer... you will be trying to explore something in the space without a strong hull and a GREAT firepower?...I don't think so...
what it needs is a new look.... and few more purchase points, if its "Old and in the hands of many people", its obvios that's sold in more places XDD
KuEx is really really good at fighting other gunboats in direct fight without all this dodging stuff, and i find it weird too. To be honest, i have no problems using smaller and more agile gunboats, like, say, heimdalls or hydras, against the RM GB, but for the KuEx i take something else but gunboat, and that makes me sad.