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"As for the SCRA, HF, RoS and CR - they should all be open factions since they are not terrorist nor Sirius wide factions. But you can't reason with the leaders of the mentioned factions, because they will claim that these factions belong to them, and it would ruin their little world. While that may work for a faction like the IND, which only has custom ID (yet), no ships or bases, it doesn't work for the above factions because they do have ships and bases. And it's only fair to the playerbase to be able to use them without having to join a player faction."
Teschy would you stfu already, you where in RoS and you yourself know that anyone willing to join is welcome.... so what indies aint allowed to run around ****ing up the RP that DOES belong to us teschy, it does..... i made it... i made the Reaper RP before Discovery was even created... it has been in FL since before discovery has ever been created... you expect me to let anyone run around parading saying they are RP'ing us and screwing up a long made name?
Teschy..... you left for a while an angry little man and you came back an angry little man.... you where very much enjoying us when you where around before and now you come back bad mouthing me and the rest of the guys?
Two faced people piss me off
EDIT: i will state this again since it doesnt seem to get through to people. THERE ARE NO CLOSED RESTRICTIONS TO ROS. All is required is to go onto our forum, fill in a short 12 question application that has no RP to it at all, i have it to determine what kind of work said people will need. Yes we dont allow independant players... why? cause our ID, IS a terrorist ID teschy, it allows us to kill anything we so wish within the Omicrons and Omega's if you want 100 Reaper ID'd indies flying OC dreads (yes they are allowed) killing anything that moves... go ahead mate, propose to the admins they make it public.
I'm not badmouthing you Loh, but you just proved my point. Back when I joined, the RoS were outcasts, but in .86 they're getting their own stuff so they might as well be public. I don't understand your anger. Just because I said something you don't like makes me two faced?
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Nah cause your making it out like im a dick thats why. Like i said teschy if you want 100 people flying around killing anything that moves.... propose to the admins that the Reaper ID gets made public.
Christ, il even keep my nose outta said proposition. I'll let the admins decide on that. And no, i dont think a 'nerf' would be fair. Call me Bias ^_^
EDIT: oh and yeah, your right we where OC back then, we are still the same faction with the same policies, people who joined us then, should join us for the same reason... people who wanna be Reapers SHOULD be in the faction, not just to get the ID and the ship.
Unless your saying that they can RP something that was literally made off the top of my head better? in that case i stand down and let them take over. In the end indies will need to abide the same stuff we abide to, they will need to play the same role we need to due to the RP... why? cause that IS what we are mate.
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I shall leave it at that, i do apologize to everyone for my sudden outburst. I have said my piece, and i shall stand by it.
If anyone else agree's with Teschy then go ahead and propose to the admins that the Reaper ID (AS IS WITHOUT A NERF, cause frankly that is not the issue here) become public use.
- oh and watch the chaos ensue if it does get made public, dun say i didnt warn you.
Well I'm sorry, it wasn't my intention. You're not a dick, but you're not gonna be around forever, and perhaps the next RoS leader will be one. But that's not the idea.
I've been in the Keepers, RoS, HF, IND and Phantoms, so it's not like crying over the fact that I can't join them. The SCRA, CR did not interest me, in case you're wondering. It's just that the concept of 'elite' factions is so.. .83, you know. Kinda like the phantoms, but with crappier stuff (or no stuff).
I agree with you on one thing though. The RoS, IND and HF shouldn't be opened to indies in .85, because they don't have custom bases and infocards yet, so people not browsing the forums won't know anything about them. But as soon as .86 gets released, they should be, because just like the FL Devs created the vanilla factions that we are playing now, you have created a faction for the Discovery mod that everyone should be able to play as.
As for the SCRA and CR (and Keepers and Wild if you will), well they already have their lore in game, so they're ready for this step.
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' Wrote:Player factions all have advantages and disadvantages. It may be as hard to join the LN as it may be to join the HF. That's not the point. The point is that these aforementioned factions have been integrated in the Discovery lore, so now they're represented not only by players, but by NPCs as well. Which should make them available to indies as well.
Who says it should? You? There is no rule saying that because a faction has NPCs it has to have independent players. That is your opinion. Opinion. Quit stating it as if it is fact or there is a rule proclaiming it.
Nothing is stopping people from enjoying the role play, ships, or guns of the SCRA, CR, RoS, Keepers, and the Aoi dudes. They all have open recruitment anyone can apply for.
Again, your complaint isn't that you can't enjoy their role play. It is that you can't use their ships and guns to kill people. You don't give two iotas about the role play of these factions, you are just upset they have ships and guns you can't use.
By you or your, I am not referring to anyone person but to the people (as a whole) who are making this complaint against these supposedly elite factions. You can join them. You can enjoy their role play along with their ships and guns. Yet you refuse to merely because they are player factions.
This is a role playing server, as with every single role playing game out there; there are limitations. Instead of whining about them how about you enjoy the game within those limitations?
' Wrote:Oh, so it is about losing your precious stuff after all, isn't it? Well I'm sure the HF have nothing to lose from this deal. They can keep their Blood Dragon and Outcast ships, they belong to the official faction.
We have Blood Dragon ships? Soru but the last time you saw an HF Katana must've been .84
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[10:03:21 AM] Justin Hopkins: I have no gripes with a watered down HF ID getting made public to be honest.
[10:03:43 AM] Justin Hopkins: And even if it wasn't nerfed and we had to deal with people like Karigan 24/7, that's not my issue.
[10:04:01 AM] Justin Hopkins: Reason I'd not want to see BS and Cruiser spam is because we -don't have that many-
[10:04:17 AM] Justin Hopkins: It'd cease to strike fear into the heart of the enemy and be "Just another Spyglass"
I think elite factions are fine. What I don't consider fine is them having 'best toys' and being exempt from the rules because their RP is better.
They don't need better stuff to be special and elite. They can have 'different' stuff, if they have to, like Coalition has their shipline which is in no way good but it's still different. If you'd give them some VHF's that are better then the current Sabre, I'd go on and complain - yes.
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