(03-01-2013, 01:37 PM)Trail Wrote: Anyway regardless. Unless Karlotta actually tries and get rid of his perma ban I wont respect him or accept him being let back into the community by breaking the rules everytime they ban his forum and / or game accounts.
Well who you respect or accept is your decision. How ever, your assumption that I break the server rules after I got permabanned is wrong (except one time when I made a char called [Admin]Karlotta in 2010). I never break the server rules, even when others break them. Once in a while I report people who break them and who show that they dont intend to respect them unless reported. Thats partly to see if admins are doing their job now. Sometimes they are, sometimes they arent. What they still do is not sanction people because of who reported them, and not because they didnt break. As long as they still do that, I see little chance of me "trying to get rid of my ban".
Sometimes I do break the forum rules, but rarely. I'd say on 10% of the accounts that get banned. And in the case of the 10% its always to make a point about something.
Sure people will tell you that my characters are absolutely horrible and that they hassle people. But in all of those cases, I'm not hasslng people, but being a pain in the butt to people who are hassling people while they are hassling people. Examples are official [LN] and Order| people givng commands to indies that are against cannon RP, in events that they did not organize, or even shooting them for not following commands that they had no authority to give. Other examples are offcial LPI fining an indy navy carrier who had done nothing wrong (and even if he had they had no authority to do so) and gathering a lynchmob against him, or [LN] ships constantly sending FUs to indy LNs by mocking, insulting and not helping them (under totally ridiculous RP pretexts like they are doing their mancure right now).
The official faction members who do that will all tell you that I'm the one hassling them because I'm correcting them on what they actually can and cant do in terms of giving orders to indies every time I see them abuse their status. But in fact I'M just interfering with their hassling of indies.
(03-01-2013, 01:37 PM)Trail Wrote: Even if the Admins were wrong in their decision to ban him any of the times he was banned Its the simple fact that 2 wrongs dont make a right.
I dont care if they banned me because I can still play anyway. What I do care about is that they allow certain people to break rules and treat other players like sh!t. Some of the ex-admins like JihadJoe, Dusty, Virus, and Del were the worst at it. But now they still have their desciples like Gheis and Lolrawr n the team, who basically still do ther dirty work for them.
Quote:Or do you condone people breaking the rules when they get banned Karlotta?
As I said, I dont break them on the server, and seldomly do on the forum. The reason I get banned on the forum most commonly is that I give constructive criticisms on things that some admins and official faction leaders absolutely want to keep broken, because they are selfish about giving things like nomad or phantom OP stuff to themselves and their friends. They would rather have the entire omicrons stay empty and let entire NPC factions like Order and Nomads go down the toilet than give up their own privileges and ability to hand them out to the people who suck up to them.
Quote:Or do you think that Discovery and society as a whole should be run without law and order, people going around killing eachother because they feel they are right and the other is wrong?
No, I think that rules need to be applied to everyone equally. And the rules need to treat everyone equally aswell. WHen they are not, it makes fair play and good interplayer relations and player-admin relatons impossible. Here let me copy-paste something to fit in:
MLK Wrote:One who breaks an unjust law that conscience tells him is unjust, and who willingly accepts the penalty of imprisonment in order to arouse the conscience of the community over its injustice, is in reality expressing the highest respect for law.
Quote:Get yourself unbanned, continue your critcism in a normal constructive way and ill be your best friend and perhaps buy you a couple of beers.
I've been voicing normal constructive criticism in normal and constructve ways, and have been getting banned for exactly that. I've been attacked and lied about for doing that before I was banned, because of the selfshness of some of the admins, concerning nomad/phantom gear, and most importantly, concerning un-sanctioned rule violations which got willfully ignore by them although they knew perfectly well that I was right. At present I think as long as JihadJoe and Dusty still have their friends in high position, they will continue to do exactly the same if I get unbanned, and it wouldnt last long anyway.