Quote:I dont want anyone to get sanctioned, I want everyone to be on the same page when it comes to understanding what is allowed and what isnt, and when it comes to understanding what is considered extremely poor behavior.
This isn't going to happen, people always have vastly different opinions depending on their positions. The only opinions that matter are those that enforce the rules. If you avoid sanctioning people, you aren't actually advancing your cause in any meaningful way since these opinions are more often than not very deeply entrenched. Plus, I've seen many instances of "I don't want to sanction people", being a cover for "I didn't record any evidence/don't think admins will agree with me", so I am suitably jaded by skepticism.
Quote:The issuing of those orders is not a problem. You say official navy guys ordering other navies to kill civilians, to side with pirates, to let pirates pirate freely is not a problem.
Awesome.
If you summarise some of my actions in the past in only a few words without understanding the surrounding circumstances, I've done all of those things. Although, to avoid ordering others to shoot civilians, I did it myself with the help of those bound to obey (basically other [LN]). If they disobey the Laws of Liberty, its absolutely allowed - laws which are written with just enough ambiguity to RPly allow force in almost every situation. Coincidentally, the server rules are written this way too - if you piss off the admins enough but you haven't broken any specific rules, they will just sanction you for 1.2.
Quote:It's only confusing for a while. If you seen it enough it becomes crystal clear:
1 noob indy VHF, 1 noob indy cruiser or GB, and 1 [LN] guy sit at manhattan.
1 l33t unlawful sabre comes along.
Noob cruiser: Pirate! Stand down! You are pirate! I protect people! Engage!
[LN]: THATS NOT FAIR!!! STAND DOWN! OR I BUST YOU UP WITH MY PRIMARY FLEETENESS; ALSO THAT PIRATE DIDNT DO NO CRIMES AND IS MY FRIEND AND ALSO EX ADMIRAL OF THE PRIMARY NAVY!
Noob Cruiser: Ok.
l33t Sabre: Hello noob navy VHF. You are noob and I am girl and I kill you! Pew Pew!
Noob cruiser: I defend! Engaging!
[LN]: THATS NOT FAIR! CRUISER AND VHF AGAINST ONE PIRATE VHF IS NOT FAIR! I AM GUARDIAN OF FAIRNESS OF THE UNIVERSE AND I COMMAND THEE! STAND DOWN AND DONT BE SO UNF....
Noob VHF was pwned by l33t sabregirl
l33t SAbre: lol
[LN]: rofl. Next time I get to be the pirate.
Funnily enough, I read that example you give and don't see a problem with it. If the pirate has spent time honing his skills to the point where he is better than 99% of the server, he should be rewarded for this by increased success rate in battles, not shot at by everybody in their capital ship because they can't beat him in their fighters.
Furthermore in your example, if the enemy pilot really is uberleet, then everyone's fight is ruined. The cruiser wont kill anything unless it magics itself into a gunboat and the enemy doesn't run, the fighter that was fighting him doesn't get to hit anything and the uberleet pilot can't kill anything despite the time he's invested into making himself more skilled.
It's definitely a point of view as to whether a noob VHF vs a pro VHF is more or less balanced than a noob VHF + gunboat/cruiser vs a pro VHF. If you want to make that call, work your way up to official faction lead. If you get there, I'm sure your opinion will change significantly if you spend the significant amount of time and effort it would take to reach that position.
As for your other bits, you separated my point about how official factions cant stop you from doing canon things in a bit of a silly way, since I highlighted an instance where they can. An instance provided for by the rules that state it cannot be done. This implies that there are more instances of this, but also that the judgment of their legitmacy is determined by the admins, should any instances of it come to their attention.
