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revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions

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Option 1 "leave it as it is"
44.19%
57 44.19%
Option 2 "change the ships to a more passive stance"
26.36%
34 26.36%
Option 3 "change the ships to a unique transport line"
23.26%
30 23.26%
Option 4 "i have my own ideas which are: ....."
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8 6.20%
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revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions
Offline Mercarryn
01-20-2014, 04:18 PM, (This post was last modified: 01-20-2014, 04:39 PM by Mercarryn.)
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Well, before I explain the reason behind my vote, please keep in mind, that I am both a member of OSI ( zoner faction that does not use zoner caps) and 141|, order indie faction where I am using an Order ID Aquilon that inRP was granted by TAZ and Phoenix.

So, I have to admit, I may be biased (and to be honest, I think everyone is biased to some degree)

Ok, so I voted both points 1 and 3, i.e. leave them as they are and the idea about unique transport line.

Well, why did I vote for this?

Now, I think we cannnot just use one of the following proposals on ALL the zoner caps, instead one should have a look at each zoner cap and try to get a solution for it on its own.

I'd like to take the Fearless as an example. According ID infocard, it is meant to be a Q-Ship, a.ka a zoner whale that was transformed into a combat ship. Why don't we set it up as sone like that?

My idea for the Fearless would be the following:

-increase the cargo 3.8k perhaps so it cannot land in house space) and give it a transport shield so that one can see where its origin lies, perhaps even give it turning speed of a transport.
-keep the current cruiser speed and armor. Add a few transport guns AND keep the 2 heavy cruiser slots (as a nasty surprise).

(tbh, I`d like to fly such a nasty thing as OSI, sorry Daedric Big Grin )

Corvo:
I am not sure about this one. I have used an Order ID Corvo against a K'hara Marduk surcessfully in 4.86, don't know how it is now in .87:

-Either make the model bigger or perhaps adjust the turning speed.
-Remove the CD (?)

Aquilon:
Ok, I might sound biased, but I think the Zoners actually need it as it is now. Only thing that comes to my mind to make it less agressive is:

-Nerf its hull a bit. Though wiith the current loadout I'd not really use it against other battleships.

But yes, the Aquilon is a true capital ship and it should stay as one.

Nephilim:

Yeah, I think that one here is the root of all evil, due to it being in the one of the stronges capital ships in terms of hull and firepower, although actually a flying freeport.

-My proposal would be to do the "less firepower - more armor" solution. I think that this one fits for the Nephilim and let's zoners survive in dangerous areas like Omicrons without acting to militant. This would also solve the little problem that Order indies use the nephilims as true combat weapons like it happened in late .86.

*EDIT*
Just noticed I forgot the Conference. Well, haven't really used it but from my point of view, it can stay as it is and be used a heavy escort and armored transport vessel. I see no reason to change it.
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revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Jinx - 01-20-2014, 01:31 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Zen_Mechanics - 01-20-2014, 01:37 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Mister_X - 01-20-2014, 01:42 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Zen_Mechanics - 01-20-2014, 01:42 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Jinx - 01-20-2014, 01:46 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Zen_Mechanics - 01-20-2014, 01:53 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Spud - 01-20-2014, 01:47 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Mímir - 01-20-2014, 01:48 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Zen_Mechanics - 01-20-2014, 02:07 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Jinx - 01-20-2014, 01:53 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by lIceColon - 01-20-2014, 01:54 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by djordje_petrovic - 01-20-2014, 01:54 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Haste - 01-20-2014, 01:59 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Mímir - 01-20-2014, 02:20 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Zen_Mechanics - 01-20-2014, 02:28 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Mímir - 01-20-2014, 02:29 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Zen_Mechanics - 01-20-2014, 02:32 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Scumbag - 01-20-2014, 02:29 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Mímir - 01-20-2014, 02:39 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Scumbag - 01-20-2014, 02:40 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Zen_Mechanics - 01-20-2014, 02:49 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Mímir - 01-20-2014, 04:13 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by RedEclipse - 01-20-2014, 02:44 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Zuretz - 01-20-2014, 02:44 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Challenger - 01-20-2014, 02:49 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Quiron - 01-20-2014, 03:29 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by tyro - 01-20-2014, 03:30 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by djordje_petrovic - 01-20-2014, 03:41 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by RedEclipse - 01-20-2014, 03:53 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Daedric - 01-20-2014, 04:00 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Mercarryn - 01-20-2014, 04:18 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Lythrilux - 01-20-2014, 04:32 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by RedEclipse - 01-20-2014, 06:07 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Lythrilux - 01-20-2014, 06:52 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by RedEclipse - 01-20-2014, 06:57 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Rodent - 01-20-2014, 07:30 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Tommeh - 01-20-2014, 07:48 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by RedEclipse - 01-20-2014, 08:12 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Omicron - 01-20-2014, 09:04 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Savas - 01-20-2014, 09:53 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Trogdor - 01-20-2014, 10:04 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by arvg - 01-20-2014, 10:09 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Sabru - 01-20-2014, 10:13 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Highland Laddie - 01-20-2014, 10:26 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by tyro - 01-20-2014, 10:31 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Curios - 01-21-2014, 06:03 AM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by tyro - 01-21-2014, 07:30 AM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by SMGSterlin - 01-21-2014, 07:42 AM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by RedEclipse - 01-21-2014, 09:43 AM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by tyro - 01-21-2014, 10:23 AM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Arioch - 01-21-2014, 10:03 AM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Curios - 01-21-2014, 10:37 AM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Arioch - 01-21-2014, 10:36 AM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by RedEclipse - 01-21-2014, 10:40 AM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Arioch - 01-21-2014, 10:44 AM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Lythrilux - 01-21-2014, 10:56 AM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Arioch - 01-21-2014, 10:58 AM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Mímir - 01-21-2014, 11:40 AM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by tyro - 01-21-2014, 11:51 AM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by RedEclipse - 01-21-2014, 12:06 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Lythrilux - 01-21-2014, 11:57 AM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Enkidu - 02-21-2014, 02:19 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by RedEclipse - 01-21-2014, 10:58 AM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Spud - 01-21-2014, 11:11 AM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by djordje_petrovic - 01-21-2014, 11:16 AM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Lythrilux - 01-21-2014, 11:21 AM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Pancakes - 01-21-2014, 11:57 AM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Jinx - 01-21-2014, 12:36 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Sabru - 01-21-2014, 12:39 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by NonSequitor - 01-21-2014, 12:53 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Haste - 01-21-2014, 01:09 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Jinx - 01-21-2014, 12:54 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by RedEclipse - 01-21-2014, 01:03 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Mercarryn - 01-21-2014, 01:21 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by RedEclipse - 01-21-2014, 01:28 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Jinx - 01-21-2014, 01:38 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Toan Varcona - 01-21-2014, 02:10 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Pancakes - 01-21-2014, 02:14 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Toan Varcona - 01-21-2014, 02:22 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Mímir - 01-21-2014, 02:18 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Toan Varcona - 01-21-2014, 02:25 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Arioch - 01-21-2014, 06:36 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by RedEclipse - 01-21-2014, 06:40 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by .Gypsy. - 01-21-2014, 07:33 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by SMGSterlin - 01-21-2014, 11:13 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Highland Laddie - 01-21-2014, 11:19 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Arioch - 01-21-2014, 11:35 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Pancakes - 01-22-2014, 10:35 AM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by lIceColon - 01-22-2014, 12:03 AM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by RedEclipse - 01-22-2014, 08:15 AM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by tyro - 01-22-2014, 11:31 AM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Aazalot - 01-22-2014, 11:43 AM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Zen_Mechanics - 01-22-2014, 04:41 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by puppytaste - 01-22-2014, 03:00 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Spud - 01-22-2014, 03:05 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by lIceColon - 01-22-2014, 03:16 PM
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RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Mímir - 01-22-2014, 03:34 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by RedEclipse - 01-22-2014, 04:05 PM
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RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by lIceColon - 02-21-2014, 04:44 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Lunaphase - 02-24-2014, 06:17 AM

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