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revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions
Offline Jinx
01-21-2014, 12:54 PM, (This post was last modified: 01-21-2014, 01:15 PM by Jinx.)
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the point is, sabre

we do not get the hessian drama, LN drama, BAF drama or so much. but we do get the zoner drama.

that does not mean that ppl fully agree with others. - we had a lot of complaints about hessians getting so much love ( battleship ) compared to others - but the unique thing about it is....

zoners popped up for over 5 years repeatedly - if you want to gain more insight, i suggest you just go back year after year and read about the zoner drama. - a hint... even what originated from long long ago ( which started with the [A] was by no means the first incidence )

but i fear you ppl think of it as a nerf - much more than an opportunity to re-shape the faction into something that fits its role better.



edit:

also - to be a bit more aggressive, cause i grow tired of it...

- if you all think that the realization of "how zoners are done in the game" is so satisfactory, i suggest next time we get the zoner drama, you start to defend your point with just as much passion - and not hang out lazily on the back bench.

off of all the ppl who really defended how zoners are right now - i have really only seen Trogdor and yes - doc h .. up to a point, although he seems not to like to get involved in discussions about zoners if avoidable. especially you, sabre - you have advocated a restrictive stance vs. indies with your past concepts ( official faction only etc. ) which is a huge change for the indies, too - the only difference is ... you d not be affected by it, cause you are TAZ (or so i suspect). so good for you.

but instead we are looking into concepts that are both fairer for ALL while at the same time beneficial.

we want to take the initiative to fix some past mistakes. - so the ships do not fit just as well ( no surprise there - they are based off of the freaking CIS star frigate of star wars and its original implemented size ) - are zoners the only faction that suffers from that? - hell no, but they are the most prominent faction that is pointed out. and thats why i d like to start there.

back in the days - igiss pushed ships with little to no history to the zoners, cause surprise, zoners concept of diversity justified almost any crap. and it just gets annoying when year after year the "devs" are accused for having expanded the zoners so much.

yea - we ended up with a planet, a system, 2 battleships, 2 cruisers, 1 gunboat for a faction that can hardly justify flying anything more powerful than a dromedary ( as pointed out by a few players ) - as a matter of fact, there were players demanding zoners to get "back to those roots" of flying just snub crap.

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revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Jinx - 01-20-2014, 01:31 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Zen_Mechanics - 01-20-2014, 01:37 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Mister_X - 01-20-2014, 01:42 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Zen_Mechanics - 01-20-2014, 01:42 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Jinx - 01-20-2014, 01:46 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Zen_Mechanics - 01-20-2014, 01:53 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Spud - 01-20-2014, 01:47 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Mímir - 01-20-2014, 01:48 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Zen_Mechanics - 01-20-2014, 02:07 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Jinx - 01-20-2014, 01:53 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by lIceColon - 01-20-2014, 01:54 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by djordje_petrovic - 01-20-2014, 01:54 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Haste - 01-20-2014, 01:59 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Mímir - 01-20-2014, 02:20 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Zen_Mechanics - 01-20-2014, 02:28 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Mímir - 01-20-2014, 02:29 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Zen_Mechanics - 01-20-2014, 02:32 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Scumbag - 01-20-2014, 02:29 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Mímir - 01-20-2014, 02:39 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Scumbag - 01-20-2014, 02:40 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Zen_Mechanics - 01-20-2014, 02:49 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Mímir - 01-20-2014, 04:13 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by RedEclipse - 01-20-2014, 02:44 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Zuretz - 01-20-2014, 02:44 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Challenger - 01-20-2014, 02:49 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Quiron - 01-20-2014, 03:29 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by tyro - 01-20-2014, 03:30 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by djordje_petrovic - 01-20-2014, 03:41 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by RedEclipse - 01-20-2014, 03:53 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Daedric - 01-20-2014, 04:00 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Mercarryn - 01-20-2014, 04:18 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Lythrilux - 01-20-2014, 04:32 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by RedEclipse - 01-20-2014, 06:07 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Lythrilux - 01-20-2014, 06:52 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by RedEclipse - 01-20-2014, 06:57 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Rodent - 01-20-2014, 07:30 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Tommeh - 01-20-2014, 07:48 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by RedEclipse - 01-20-2014, 08:12 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Omicron - 01-20-2014, 09:04 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Savas - 01-20-2014, 09:53 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Trogdor - 01-20-2014, 10:04 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by arvg - 01-20-2014, 10:09 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Sabru - 01-20-2014, 10:13 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Highland Laddie - 01-20-2014, 10:26 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by tyro - 01-20-2014, 10:31 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Curios - 01-21-2014, 06:03 AM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by tyro - 01-21-2014, 07:30 AM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by SMGSterlin - 01-21-2014, 07:42 AM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by RedEclipse - 01-21-2014, 09:43 AM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by tyro - 01-21-2014, 10:23 AM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Arioch - 01-21-2014, 10:03 AM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Curios - 01-21-2014, 10:37 AM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Arioch - 01-21-2014, 10:36 AM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by RedEclipse - 01-21-2014, 10:40 AM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Arioch - 01-21-2014, 10:44 AM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Lythrilux - 01-21-2014, 10:56 AM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Arioch - 01-21-2014, 10:58 AM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Mímir - 01-21-2014, 11:40 AM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by tyro - 01-21-2014, 11:51 AM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by RedEclipse - 01-21-2014, 12:06 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Lythrilux - 01-21-2014, 11:57 AM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Enkidu - 02-21-2014, 02:19 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by RedEclipse - 01-21-2014, 10:58 AM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Spud - 01-21-2014, 11:11 AM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by djordje_petrovic - 01-21-2014, 11:16 AM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Lythrilux - 01-21-2014, 11:21 AM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Pancakes - 01-21-2014, 11:57 AM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Jinx - 01-21-2014, 12:36 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Sabru - 01-21-2014, 12:39 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by NonSequitor - 01-21-2014, 12:53 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Haste - 01-21-2014, 01:09 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Jinx - 01-21-2014, 12:54 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by RedEclipse - 01-21-2014, 01:03 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Mercarryn - 01-21-2014, 01:21 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by RedEclipse - 01-21-2014, 01:28 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Jinx - 01-21-2014, 01:38 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Toan Varcona - 01-21-2014, 02:10 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Pancakes - 01-21-2014, 02:14 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Toan Varcona - 01-21-2014, 02:22 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Mímir - 01-21-2014, 02:18 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Toan Varcona - 01-21-2014, 02:25 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Arioch - 01-21-2014, 06:36 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by RedEclipse - 01-21-2014, 06:40 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by .Gypsy. - 01-21-2014, 07:33 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by SMGSterlin - 01-21-2014, 11:13 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Highland Laddie - 01-21-2014, 11:19 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Arioch - 01-21-2014, 11:35 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Pancakes - 01-22-2014, 10:35 AM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by lIceColon - 01-22-2014, 12:03 AM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by RedEclipse - 01-22-2014, 08:15 AM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by tyro - 01-22-2014, 11:31 AM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Aazalot - 01-22-2014, 11:43 AM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Zen_Mechanics - 01-22-2014, 04:41 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by puppytaste - 01-22-2014, 03:00 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Spud - 01-22-2014, 03:05 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by lIceColon - 01-22-2014, 03:16 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by RedEclipse - 01-22-2014, 03:28 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Mímir - 01-22-2014, 03:34 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by RedEclipse - 01-22-2014, 04:05 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by djordje_petrovic - 01-22-2014, 03:41 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Spud - 01-22-2014, 03:46 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Mímir - 01-22-2014, 04:25 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Highland Laddie - 01-22-2014, 05:31 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by puppytaste - 01-22-2014, 05:51 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by chase.way - 01-22-2014, 05:55 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by puppytaste - 01-22-2014, 06:01 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Doc Holliday - 01-22-2014, 06:30 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by RedEclipse - 01-22-2014, 06:52 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Mímir - 01-22-2014, 06:56 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Spud - 01-22-2014, 07:22 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Omicron - 01-22-2014, 08:41 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Highland Laddie - 01-22-2014, 09:07 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Coin - 01-23-2014, 01:19 AM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by puppytaste - 01-23-2014, 02:55 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Sabru - 02-21-2014, 12:32 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by lIceColon - 02-21-2014, 04:44 PM
RE: revision of the ZONERS faction - to avoid yearly discussions - by Lunaphase - 02-24-2014, 06:17 AM

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