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Offline t0l
05-06-2014, 10:30 PM, (This post was last modified: 05-06-2014, 10:33 PM by t0l.)
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(05-06-2014, 10:12 PM)TheUnforgiven Wrote:
(05-06-2014, 09:46 PM)Tal Wrote: I don't think you understand.

The reason why BS scanners are OP is because people are using them to deliberately avoid player interactions. No scouts exist anymore, no pirates want to pirate because the scumbag will just run off with his 25k scanner range.

I understand perfectly, and feel the same that you all do not understand that this is not a rampant problem and its not the end of the world (cancer as its been referred to, CANCER). There are ways to get around that sometimes, and yes, sometimes you can't. The trader sunk the money into it to start evading pirates better. That was the point. They worked for it. Raise the value of them now maybe? Sure. When you say 'avoid player interaction' it sounds like you're really hiding behind a term that means 'avoiding getting pirated by me' because piracy is not the only form of player interaction. Not every transport uses these scanners, and having them doesn't always ensure you will succeed, especially against skilled and knowledgeable players. It can't be OP to try to trade successfully without being pirated.

I still don't understand why a vet pirate in any ship vs a vet trader couldn't both have a 25k scanner they worked to buy, for the 250 mil, and be on even playing fields. The trader having it makes it easier to evade, the pirate having it makes it easier to track. It was fair. The nerf removed snubs from the picture. Again, even I have ceded that's fair enough of a compromise (even though I still opposed it) for those who wanted the nerf. Going any further with it is just useless. Limiting transports to the worst scanners would just kill the trading experience. It would finally strip it down to mandatory 'work' needed to make money for other chars, reducing trading to nothing but grind.

"Evade pirates better"? As in, avoid player interaction? Let me explain this to you.

Old cycle:

Trader takes lane or hires scout.
Pirate pirates the trader or interacts with scout.
Lawfuls come and shoot the pirate.
Trader continues trading.

Repeat.

New cycle:
Trader buys BS scanner and takes lane.
Trader sees pirate 25k away.
Trader flies away.
Pirate sits on lane and logs off due to boredom.
Scouts don't log because people can use BS scanners instead.
Lawfuls don't log because there are no more pirates.

Repeat..?

Yeah, it doesn't work. This isn't the "Discovery 4.87 Powertrading Server 24/7", it's the "Discovery 4.87 RP 24/7" server. Roleplay is a key part of what is server is about, and you can't have roleplay, without...

PLAYER INTERACTION

Pirates camp the lanes while traders take them. When a trader sees the pirate, he has at least a 15k distance between him and the pirate. By the time the pirate (with same scanner) sees the trader, the trader has already cruised off to the previous base. See how this doesn't work?

And no, before you accuse me of trying to make it easier for me to pirate people, I don't play pirates. I play house Navies and traders.

Please, get it through your thick skull.

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Messages In This Thread
New pirate scanner idea - by Pavel - 05-05-2014, 10:35 PM
RE: New pirate scanner idea - by Jack_Henderson - 05-05-2014, 10:38 PM
RE: New pirate scanner idea - by Pavel - 05-05-2014, 10:40 PM
RE: New pirate scanner idea - by Lythrilux - 05-05-2014, 10:42 PM
RE: New pirate scanner idea - by Pavel - 05-05-2014, 10:43 PM
RE: New pirate scanner idea - by Lythrilux - 05-05-2014, 10:47 PM
RE: New pirate scanner idea - by Deeceem - 05-05-2014, 10:43 PM
RE: New pirate scanner idea - by Lythrilux - 05-05-2014, 10:50 PM
RE: New pirate scanner idea - by Gaz83 - 05-06-2014, 12:05 AM
RE: New pirate scanner idea - by Redon - 05-05-2014, 10:45 PM
RE: New pirate scanner idea - by Pavel - 05-05-2014, 10:46 PM
RE: New pirate scanner idea - by Deeceem - 05-05-2014, 10:53 PM
RE: New pirate scanner idea - by Redon - 05-05-2014, 10:59 PM
RE: New pirate scanner idea - by Pavel - 05-05-2014, 10:50 PM
RE: New pirate scanner idea - by Flox Corp - 05-05-2014, 10:53 PM
RE: New pirate scanner idea - by Jack_Henderson - 05-05-2014, 10:57 PM
RE: New pirate scanner idea - by Pavel - 05-05-2014, 11:00 PM
RE: New pirate scanner idea - by Jack_Henderson - 05-05-2014, 11:02 PM
RE: New pirate scanner idea - by Pavel - 05-05-2014, 11:04 PM
RE: New pirate scanner idea - by wodalin - 05-06-2014, 01:32 AM
RE: New pirate scanner idea - by Blodwyn O'Driscoll - 05-05-2014, 11:11 PM
RE: New pirate scanner idea - by Ayatolah - 05-05-2014, 11:12 PM
RE: New pirate scanner idea - by Pavel - 05-05-2014, 11:23 PM
RE: New pirate scanner idea - by Jack_Henderson - 05-05-2014, 11:52 PM
RE: New pirate scanner idea - by Troyan12345 - 05-06-2014, 06:13 PM
RE: New pirate scanner idea - by Veygaar - 05-06-2014, 12:40 AM
RE: New pirate scanner idea - by t0l - 05-06-2014, 01:41 AM
RE: New pirate scanner idea - by Binski - 05-06-2014, 02:40 AM
RE: New pirate scanner idea - by Redon - 05-06-2014, 02:56 AM
RE: New pirate scanner idea - by Binski - 05-06-2014, 04:00 AM
RE: New pirate scanner idea - by Highland Laddie - 05-06-2014, 03:06 AM
RE: New pirate scanner idea - by Zayne Carrick - 05-06-2014, 03:54 AM
RE: New pirate scanner idea - by Badperson - 05-06-2014, 06:00 AM
RE: New pirate scanner idea - by SnakThree - 05-06-2014, 06:08 AM
RE: New pirate scanner idea - by |nfrared - 05-06-2014, 07:19 AM
RE: New pirate scanner idea - by SnakThree - 05-06-2014, 07:45 AM
RE: New pirate scanner idea - by St.Denis - 05-06-2014, 07:52 AM
RE: New pirate scanner idea - by Binski - 05-06-2014, 02:19 PM
RE: New pirate scanner idea - by SnakThree - 05-06-2014, 02:31 PM
RE: New pirate scanner idea - by Binski - 05-06-2014, 02:54 PM
RE: New pirate scanner idea - by Ponge - 05-06-2014, 07:55 AM
RE: New pirate scanner idea - by Govedo13 - 05-06-2014, 08:47 AM
RE: New pirate scanner idea - by SnakThree - 05-06-2014, 02:58 PM
RE: New pirate scanner idea - by Jack_Henderson - 05-06-2014, 03:06 PM
RE: New pirate scanner idea - by Redon - 05-06-2014, 06:25 PM
RE: New pirate scanner idea - by Binski - 05-06-2014, 04:18 PM
RE: New pirate scanner idea - by t0l - 05-06-2014, 05:30 PM
RE: New pirate scanner idea - by Highland Laddie - 05-06-2014, 03:16 PM
RE: New pirate scanner idea - by SnakThree - 05-06-2014, 03:20 PM
RE: New pirate scanner idea - by Tutashkhia - 05-06-2014, 04:40 PM
RE: New pirate scanner idea - by SnakThree - 05-06-2014, 04:43 PM
RE: New pirate scanner idea - by Zed26 - 05-06-2014, 05:15 PM
RE: New pirate scanner idea - by Wraga - 05-06-2014, 05:33 PM
RE: New pirate scanner idea - by Apollon - 05-06-2014, 06:23 PM
RE: New pirate scanner idea - by Jack_Henderson - 05-06-2014, 07:39 PM
RE: New pirate scanner idea - by Veygaar - 05-06-2014, 07:41 PM
RE: New pirate scanner idea - by Binski - 05-06-2014, 07:45 PM
RE: New pirate scanner idea - by Redon - 05-06-2014, 07:52 PM
RE: New pirate scanner idea - by t0l - 05-06-2014, 09:46 PM
RE: New pirate scanner idea - by Binski - 05-06-2014, 10:12 PM
RE: New pirate scanner idea - by t0l - 05-06-2014, 10:30 PM
RE: New pirate scanner idea - by Binski - 05-07-2014, 03:54 AM
RE: New pirate scanner idea - by St.Denis - 05-06-2014, 07:57 PM
RE: New pirate scanner idea - by Pavel - 05-06-2014, 07:59 PM
RE: New pirate scanner idea - by Jack_Henderson - 05-06-2014, 08:49 PM
RE: New pirate scanner idea - by Govedo13 - 05-06-2014, 09:54 PM
RE: New pirate scanner idea - by Highland Laddie - 05-06-2014, 09:36 PM
RE: New pirate scanner idea - by Pavel - 05-06-2014, 10:24 PM
RE: New pirate scanner idea - by St.Denis - 05-06-2014, 10:46 PM
RE: New pirate scanner idea - by Highland Laddie - 05-06-2014, 11:11 PM
RE: New pirate scanner idea - by EisenSeele - 05-06-2014, 11:52 PM
RE: New pirate scanner idea - by SMGSterlin - 05-07-2014, 12:36 AM
RE: New pirate scanner idea - by t0l - 05-07-2014, 12:48 AM
RE: New pirate scanner idea - by WesternPeregrine - 05-07-2014, 02:08 AM
RE: New pirate scanner idea - by Nightingale - 05-22-2014, 03:25 PM
RE: New pirate scanner idea - by Highland Laddie - 05-22-2014, 03:52 PM
RE: New pirate scanner idea - by JohnyWalker - 10-25-2014, 02:22 PM
RE: New pirate scanner idea - by Vredes - 10-25-2014, 03:43 PM
RE: New pirate scanner idea - by Freeport7 - 10-25-2014, 03:47 PM

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