Player Sanctioned: Andrea

[titanbot]

I am, or better said, was the owner of Andrea. I was told I have been sanctioned for using a "/stuck" macro while attempting to gain an unfair advantage. The first part is true, I have a "/stuck" macro, which I use when my ships are rendered immobile by pebbles and such.

Cheating in video games involves a video game player using non-standard methods for creating an advantage beyond normal gameplay, usually to make the game easier.

Even wikipedia gives you a pretty good definition of this, wouldnt have expected that one.
Even if you do not consider it to be a difference to use your macro or to type the /stuck command a lot of times, it is, considering that someone who does not do this will need a lot more time for the same amount of /stucks. Which means that you gain an advantage over another player, which is exactly the reason for rule 6. THe standard punishment for this ranges from deleting one ship, to deleting the whole account, to banning everything you own for all eternity. We only chose the first option because you did not harm others with this and it didnt really change the outcome. However, its the principle that counts, so if you cheat, you lose.

Hello,

Thank you for your reply. About my sanction you said, and I quote:

Which means that you gain an advantage over another player, which is exactly the reason for rule 6. THe standard punishment for this ranges from deleting one ship, to deleting the whole account, to banning everything you own for all eternity.

If that is the case, deletion of a ship is the minimum punishment while cheating is the easiest penalty for a cheating player - and I should be thankful.

However, there happens to be another cheating sanction, roughly in the same time scale:
http://discoverygc.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=120934

So, I'll quote you again.

We only chose the first option because you did not harm others with this and it didnt really change the outcome. However, its the principle that counts, so if you cheat, you lose.

This is what happened during that encounter:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDOAtMmeKro

So, while the sanctioned player attempted to gain an unfair advantage, but didn't managed to gain it (it didn't work out for him), I assume it's the principle that counted. He cheated as well, it's written in the sanction thread, and he lost... the guns.

I hate to say it, but this thing is just double standardizing - I used a /stuck macro to get out of an asteroid field, and I had to lose my ship for that.

The guy in the video rams while EK-ing, gets CD'd midway so he won't escape (kudos to Remi.Gaillard) - which is pretty obvious, I wasn't trying to get unfair advantages there - and the punishment is loss of guns.

I'm trying to show you the ridiculousness of the situation. You delete a ship for something unintentional, but delete only the guns for something done on purpose - either way, a mild offence in both cases as you said in this thread and your colleague in the other sanction thread. This isn't about who's right and who's wrong, and by no means I want you to delete the poor guy's ship. I would like a fair consideration from you, and if you didn't delete his ship, I'd very much like my ship back.

Regards,

titanbot

---