(01-04-2015, 11:00 PM)FynnMcScrap Wrote: It makes even less sense in my opinion to try for a Freelancer ID and only use untagged Junker ships as scrappers.
Hence why it may be more logical to pursue TT as a non-Junker faction?
--- T&T is significantly different from JM| and .:J:. to be a seperate faction.
Using Junker ID gives us the Background we want, and the scrap bonus. Using Freelancer ID gives us the versality we want, effectively trading some cargo allowance and some PvP engagement allowances against some diplomatic leeway.
Fact is : we CAN fly as Freelancers, and only use untagged scrappers, but this is no good RP, only enforcement of a rule.
Fact also is : We CAN fly as fully Junker, but then we have a major break in our RP and our Faction Goal is unreachable not for storytelling or RP background issues but because of ID mechanics and rephack.
(01-04-2015, 11:00 PM)FynnMcScrap Wrote: I would greet a clear rule here, and as we use Junker based ID with Tinker IFF if this comes through I would interpret that a Hogosha can shoot a T&T ship afterwards, so perhaps you will see our diplomacy to Hogs and Samura evaporate soon enough.
I'm bit a confused as to what you mean here, mind explaining it a bit more please?
--- if Tinker ID is created and counts as Junker organisation ID , not as Freelancer organisation or Freelancer generic ID , automatially Xenos and Hogosha have the allowance their own ID gives them and can attack withour demand. Same as Junker ID currently can attack Xeno and Hogosha everywhere.
We do not aim at fighting Hogosha or Xeno, except in self defense, but that does only affect our trigger, not theirs.
(01-04-2015, 11:00 PM)FynnMcScrap Wrote: Also I would request clear info on following interpretation : currently no Junker may attack another Junker, correct ?
What´s up with ~ as excemple, I would not want to let ANY situation escalate that far if I can handle it differently ~ whats up with JM| shooting at T&T/ for excemple, or at .:j:. in any case of trouble, after each official faction gets an own ID ?
Weeeeell, in the past JM and Congress did have scuffles but that was because certain Congressmen were acting silly and out of Congress-protocool, which lead to drama, so I wouldn't count that.
T&T being shot at however? Hm, I don't know. I'd assume that such a situation would arise if you get too friendly with Samura and Hogosha and happily fund them with resources to help them build ships.
--- the question is ID allowance, nor really diplomacy.
It´s the difference between a Marauder or Congress Leader getting pissed and asking for an explanation if some hotshots shoot each other, and of an Admin processing a ID violation report.
My question is : do the specific ID´s fall under the engagement rules / ZoI rules fully regarding their base ID? In case of Junker ID with currently 2 ID´s and hopefully soon 3 ID´s : is it an ID violation if one Junker shoots another or just ... scrap ?
(01-04-2015, 11:00 PM)FynnMcScrap Wrote: Has there been discussion about that already ?