Is a foreign trader, supporting and expanding a hostile economic system, a mode of production that is pure EVIL, as well as enriching foreign and hostile individuals on the expense of the many, a friend of the working class?
Thank you for telling me what I want, but you are wrong. What I would like is a terrorist faction with a strong ideological and poltical component; a component that prevents them from forming the alliances a rationalist-capitalist would forge; supplying a role that offers a radically different world view than other roles. To me, that is interesting. I want to play something other than me, not just me in a Coalition uniform - otherwise what's the point of roleplaying?
How would a die-hard revolutionary, locked in a battle of more than 800 years, shaped by propaganda, look at the world and its inhabitants? There's a lot of interesting social structures at play, philosophically there is much to draw upon, and historically there is a lot of precedence in real-life events.
That opens up to a plethora of different roles one can play within the Coalition, rather than a constricted mish-mash of half-baked ideas that is clearly born out of a clear-cut lack of knowledge of Communism as it were and as it is.
EDIT: But I guess that not playing a constricted (and dumb!) role laid out to you by someone else is "abuse"?
(06-12-2015, 01:00 PM)Shinju Wrote:
(06-12-2015, 12:55 PM)Mímir Wrote: Why on earth would the Coalition need Libertonian civilians?
I'm down with Coalition not shooting Coalition and allied traders for obvious reasons.
If Revolution happens, who's going to listen to Coalition? Dont you need civilians for Revolution? If you shoot Civs and Revolution happens, wouldnt Civs want another Revolution?
Like in all revolutions, EVERYONE is forced to make a stance. That's sort of at the core of what a revolution is, rather than just a change of who sits in the formal seat of power. Instead you are tearing down the seat of power. Did Mao hand out biscuits to random foreign civilians in the hope that one day they might think he's a cool guy and rally for him? Either you are for a revolution, or you are against it - there's no middle ground, and that's why so many people end up dead during them, it's all right there in your history books; Disco-logic aside. You might win elections with rosy words and selfless actions, but you won't win a revolution.
"Abuse!111!!!!!!" and the usual Disco-daftness aside (like it really matters if you get shot by a black ship with a russian name or a silvery ship with a italian name - but, of course, obligatory "PVP-abuse!!111!!!!" is warranted); at the end of the day how much fun is it playing the good guy if there's no one to play the bad guy - or even worse, having an ID that won't actually play as the badguy you essentially ought to play as?
Look how SCRA spiralled downward. Same with K'hara/Keepers. When both factions were actually played as sort-of-kind-of badguys, they were somewhat interesting. Now they just want to sit and chat instead, and got nothing of interest to say. Maybe that's the real ID abuse, come to think of it. What good is a game of archetypes if there are no "dark" types to mirror the goods?
At the end of the day, everyone should be free to do their roleplay the way they see fit. I do not mind the official faction doing their think, but I oppose to the fact that it restrains me from doing things that it can very well be argued that Coalition should be doing. I don't see why both can't co-exist without one looking down on the other - it could be a "doves" and "hawks" thing, where outsiders could choose to form their diplomacy with either the softies (most likely) or baddies (not so likely). That would maybe even add some diversity and life to the Coalition.