(01-11-2017, 01:30 PM)Laura C. Wrote: To add more opinion/feedback, I am quite confused to read this. Can you elaborate about the lore you refering to? I mean if you finally want to be real freedom fighters against establishment again and not Rheinland version of Liberty Rogues which just extort and spread terror, I am all for it.
But you should apply it to everything then. You claim you don´t pirate traders for the sake of lore and because you don´t want to kill trading. That sounds nice and responsible, however first, I don´t think that reasonable piracy can kill trading (though if you want to switch to voluntary donations, go for it), and second - why is not same attitude applied to POBs then? You don´t want to extort traders but in the same time you extort every single POB you are able to find regardless of who the owner is. For quite some time, your "roleplay" towards all POBs is mostly just "50milordai", with two exceptions of "75milordai" and "200milordai". There were little to no attempts to try anything more even towards neutral bases. I am glad RHA moved from killing bases without even talking to owner like it displayed with the Zoner bases in O-7, however it would be nice to see more than just extortion, especially when it comes to neutral Freelancer POBs. For example, how about asking owner to supply RHA with some commodities they have problem to obtain, instead of just "pay or die"? You can save that for Kruger and Daumann because those won´t and can´t support you.
RHA takes a turn from being just explicitly pirates to being actual revolutionaries but still somewhat pirates. You'll notice RHA doesn't target freelancers or IC or IMG or GMG traders coming in through Rheinland frequently because we don't directly oppose or care about them inrp enough to do so or we're allied. OORPly like I said I don't want trading in Rheinland to completely die. I've turned RHA into the more villainous "join us or die" absolutest attitude because inrp that's how unlawfuls and more radical revolutionaries (like the RHA) in general work. During the french revolution the revolutionaries killed the loyalist supporters in droves both before and after the revolution. They were radicals, thats essentially how I've viewed RHA. The piracy part is targeted against their rivals (daumann, Kruger, Brets, etc) because a. they're are main inrp rivals and b. it serves to spread the whole "submission through fear" attitude which is how radical unlawful RP would work imo.
We aren't rogues, we don't shoot every single thing that moves, but we certainly aren't clean idealogical revolutionaries like the VWA, by the sound of your words in the initial paragraph you sound like you want RHA to be more like the VWA which wont happen.
PoBs are different, is building a base in a mining feild different than one trader flying into a mining feild to mine? I think it is. Extorting and killing PoBs is done to make inrp statements like "we don't mess around and we are real here". If we were dead in rheinland and only fought in Dresden against RM like clean ideological revolutionaries what reason would other lawful factions have to take us seriously? Not only that, but contrary to popular belief I am more soft on Freelancer and junker PoBs in the omegas, I made a dead with a junker base owner to only take less than half the amount i extort from regular PoBs and I've begun extorting more from Daumann and Kruger bases.
So yes, its a way of marking our territory inrp and letting are enemies know we exist and we're a force not to be reckoned with. If I was soft and let PoBs in NB or Stuttgart slide, then people would get comfortable and start building them in Omega-11 or dresden.
Quote:The crucial different is that common raid does not make permanent damage. People fight, die, make sandwich, relog and move on because nothing was lost. Thus in this case it is okay to sacrifice little of RP logic because it helps to create activity. POBs are different story, their destruction is permanent damage and consequently it means also killing activity because players usually won´t try to build it again and often move elsewhere.
With the amount of money base owners make (which is in the billions mind you) building another PoB is easy as cake. The ones that have a hard time are the core 1 FL owners usually. I do speak to most of the owners before I blow up the bases. As I've stated before, I've been a bit more soft to the them for the reasons you've stated above.
Quote:So would it affect RHA´s activity really that much if you would exempt literally one area in whole Rheinland from POB killing, especially when it corresponds with basic roleplay settings? After all, things are always about compromise and official factions are expected to have reasonable self-restrictions as they should have higher standards than just basic "I can do everything what rules do not forbid". For example lawfuls are expected to not camp unlawful bases because inRP they don´t know where they are. Everyone knows it´s bad to do it and if it happens, faction leaders are expected to teach members they should not do it.
As much as I'd like to believe that Omega-7 is popular and dresden and stuttgart are, they aren't. If you bring up the argument of "well you have the corsairs in omega-5 to shoot" then I'd tell you to try shooting sheildrunning centurions in an asteroid field for 12 hours while being shot by 5 razor gunboats 3 cruisers and a legate with razors. I hate to break it to you, but using all of RHA's ZOI is something I wont stop doing.
Quote:Thus, would be that much of an issue for you to let POBs in the vicinity of capital planet off the RHA´s reach because inRP that area is heavily defended and Hessians do not have enough forces to operate there (not to mention risking significant part of assets for very little gain as destruction of said base gives Hessians nothing and economic damages for the establishment are very minor)? Is really 50 (or 75) million credits per month important for you to point where you rather throw even basic roleplay logic out of the window to get it? Especially when you yourself said you care about trading Rheinland and you will benefit from it too as POBs help trading activity. Not all of them of course, but some of them does, remember Solitaire when it belonged Xenon for example. Also, if there will be no ore storages, traders will go trade ores from other places and thus play elsewhere, not to mention mining activity which will be reduced as well.
I've basically repeated my opinion on this argument of "basic RP logic" with operating near planets before, so I wont repeat it again. I do care about trading in Rheinland, am I going to blow up any of those bases I just taxed? No because they paid up, its a lot easier if you just pay the fee. It's not hard to maintain through trading and managing ores that are delivered and bought from your PoB. SMH has done it for almost 5 months now and they are neither official nor have a high core PoB nor have a lot of members.