(10-30-2017, 05:46 PM)Sombra Hookier Wrote: - It takes away one of the good reasons to join either K'Hara or Vagrants. For the Vagrants, we have a solid and transparent requirement to ensure people have to earn their Marduk. This also guarantees the person who managed to get the Marduk put up enough effort to both play it adequately and did enough interactions both on forum and ingame to really earn it.
- The Marduk has a very special role within the Nomad Mindshare. The last thing I want to see is people using it to lolwut around. I saw it in K'Hara already and it was terrible, and we all know Noobs will go for the most tanky and biggest battleship they can get. We all know the kind of people who play Nephilims or Ranseurs. They engage without RP, they don't know what RP is, they aren't interested in RP. Look at the people who bring Ranseurs to Liberty. They are absolutely not interested in RP, they just want to fight using the most tanky ship they can get. I really rather have only three good people knowing how to play the Marduk instead of 30 people who cause me to borderline 1.2 when describing them. We have enough of those people on Order/Outcast/Zoner battleships entering the Nomicrons already. Those people are only interested in Battleships for the sake of Battleships. They name their ships YVAN_LE_TERRIBLE, Cheesecake, Smith, TERMINATOR007, BRUTAL_OUTCAST and all that trash. You'll never have that problem with the Irra or cruisers/battlecruisers of any faction, although the increase of lolwut CPWs should be the best proof of how this should NEVER be done with Marduks, even if that means we'll never get the Ish'tar. If people want to prove they can handle a Marduk, they shall try to SRP one or join the Nomad factions. That at least brings some QA over those.
And you wonder why people don't join your factions? Have at you. And it's not about lowering requirements. But yet again - what's the point of even typing something if you don't even do anything about your own faction concepts.
Just to clear this up, it's not about Vagrants, but also about K'Haras. On the side of Vagrants, you either have to be an RP nerd or a guy with a good community rep to join the faction. But what kind of RP context your bloody faction has? Everything your evolution system is based on is grinding blues or either sitting on the side as weirdo watching how people kill eachother. You basically don't do any RP at ALL. The only RP you perform is Message Dumps and Consensuses. And with such demands, don't you think that there will be troubles within Nomad Playerbase?
Same story goes to K'Hara. I've spent about 2 months in trial mode and it went not as enjoyable, but I personslly learned a lot of stuff back then. One of those things was that I carry a history of a faction, that was created by a lot of people for a lot of years and that my goal is not screw it up as a newest member of this faction. Something that is called "responsibility". But responsible for what? After Huggie came, the entire Nomlore got overnuked and K'Haras turned into a meme-faction, showing no respect neither to previous nomlore, nor to anyone else.
And here's the answer why people stop caring about role-playing. Same with newbies - they do what masters do. They see that roleplaying in nomad community is complicated and shooting things is way more fun, not speaking about gaming communuty in general.
